PJ_model_trains Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Signals the forgotten accessory for our layouts! We need different semaphore signals. We need the different lighting signals, 2 aspect and feather, 3 aspect, 3 aspect and feathers, 4 aspect and if feasible 4 aspect with feather. It would be nice to have sidings ground signals. We need then to work in RailMaster. Hopefully this is in hand and they will be included in Version 2 of the software. Hopefully Hornby will also make the signals. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 So PJ, for the purposes of wanting new Hornby products, you would like to see DCC 2, 3 and 4 aspect light signals with feathers? And that they interface simply with the R8247 Accessory Decoder? You've covered the ability of RM to display and control these in the RM Forum Desirable Features thread, so no further discussion needed here, so no need for further discussion on that here as it won't be seen by HRMS anyway, only Hornby. Just trying to square this away in my tidy mind before the banter starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Another thing fishy, this wish list isn't seen by Hornby either, or at least they don't take any notice of it as stated at the top of the forum, so it's really only for us. Let the banter begin........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 http://www.cravenmodels.com/SIGNALSHELP.htm may be of interest to some.... And even if Hornby did see this wish list they wont do any thing about it. as it would just be a to big a head scratcher. with just PJ's ideas that's 9 signals. left and right handed feathers. plus ground. what about pre WWII electric signals and the who's going to be upset not having the companies semaphore signals not done, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 That is certainly an interesting website Fazy. Whoever set it up certainly has done their homework. The last ten years of my railway career was intimately involved with railway signalling, although from the point of view of an operator rather than as an engineer but I still needed to understand 'Signalling Principles' which were contained in Railtrack / Network Rail Group Standards. These are nowadays available on-line in the RSSB website. (RGSonline) . Much of my last job was to lead a small team carrying out risk assessments for deciding the fitting of TPWS (Train Protection and Warning System) . Signalling is a very complex subject. There are still plenty of places still using equipment that is as much as one hundred or more years old, side by side with state of the art digital equipment. The next ten years will see the start of a major revolution in signalling which I shall watch with great interest. The days of lineside signalling are numbered with new trains (IEP) coming into service with ultra modern cab signalling, which will see all signals between Kings Cross and Newcastle removed. Gradually this technology will spread to all lines and in about 25 years time the only signals still in existence will be on heritage lines, or on model railway layouts. HS1 already is a ' signal free zone', the future is already here. It would be nice if Hornby produced some better and more accurate signals, but in reality if you want a good variety of more accurate signals especially pre-Nationalisation then the market is better served from the specialist kit and 'cottage industry' sector. fazy said: http://www.cravenmodels.com/SIGNALSHELP.htm may be of interest to some.... And even if Hornby did see this wish list they wont do any thing about it. as it would just be a to big a head scratcher. with just PJ's ideas that's 9 signals. left and right handed feathers. plus ground. what about pre WWII electric signals and the who's going to be upset not having the companies semaphore signals not done, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Glade you found it of some interest LC&DR still reading throw it my self but will get there, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 This gives the present requirements for signals on the real railway - http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_Group_Standards/Control Command and Signalling/Railway Group Standards/GKRT0045 Iss 3.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Yes indeed the mainline railway is being sanitised and modernised to bring it into line with places like France and Germany over the next 20 years. As LC&Dr rightly says signals as we know them will become non-existant on the railway of tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I won't venture into HS1 and HS" territory as I think it's a waste of money, they would have been better re-opening the GCR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 HS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Another forgotten item on steam era layouts are telegraph poles. Too often you see layouts at exhibitions without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 None of the heritage railways seem to have perpetuated the open wire pole route, and I can understand why, they were notoriously unreliable and prone to the weather. However if you go back 30 or 40 years every railway line had a telegraph pole route , and sometimes one on each side of the line. Every steam era layout ought to have a pole route., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Including the wires between them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I remember seeing the wires reproduced in detail on a layout at the Model Railway Exhibition at Central Hall back in the early 1960s. The really remarkable part was it was a fine scale OOO layout (forerunner of N gauge) ! So if they can do it so can you!! Graskie said: Including the wires between them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I suppose the only problem could be that the big hand from the sky might catch them at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 The fewer times the 'big hand' appears on the visible layout the better. Clean wheels and clean track are a great aid to damage limitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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