Fazy, thank you for responding with data; and how critical this is as part of the discussion. Very telling that in relative terms, the locos are cheaper, and there is no comparison between the current Princess and the 1980 version. Down here in Australia, things were even more expensive than in the UK due to distributor costs years ago. I paid in actual todays money £80 for my 5 car APT. I loved it, make no mistake. But take a look. The New one is going to be £380 full price. We are talking 40 years ago! And we can imagine the difference in motor, pick ups, additional parts, moulding accuracy and detailed decoration, lighting, DCC ready etc. It's is a sad fact that we have given our manufacturing businesses away in general; make no mistake, there is no issue with quality of items made in China to specs supplied from western companies at all. Its not just the direct manufacturing cost, the savings extend right through the whole value chain, including tooling costs, raw materials, you name it. I choose items today just like I did when I was a teenager; carefully! Lets all support the hobby as much as we can within our means, and celebrate the quality of the items we are now offered.