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I'd like 319373 in DRS Orion livery. And one converted to Class 799 with a hydrogen fuel cell.

I want to model the train used for the Pope's visit in 1982, for Gatwick Airport to London, and also used as Prince Charles and Diana's honeymoon train. Hauled by 73142 with TDB 975025 'Caroline', two FK and BCK. Can anyone tell me the running numbers for those last three coaches?

Thanks for the replies, I'm glad the topic is of interest. I hadn't noticed the Pullman carriages, but it looks as if they weren't a permanent addition, and were slightly later than the period I have in mind. The Hugh Longworth book looks interesting, but for some reason all the libraries and bookshops near me are closed.

Good afternoon I hope someone can help me to choose some OO Gauge SR rolling stock. I want to make up a reasonable representation of the "Bournemouth Limited", as described in this article - https://www.railwaywondersoftheworld.com/bournemouth.html This is dated as 1929, so does not cover the 'modernised' train in Malachite Green that ran from 1937. I have a King Arthur and a Lord Nelson. The coaches are described as "...the steel panelled rolling stock of the latest type of which the train is composed, the green finish of the vehicles giving them a very pleasing appearance" which I assume means the new Maunsell coaches, with 'low' corridor windows, in lined Olive Green. The formation at Waterloo is "...the first four vehicles are plainly marked “Bournemouth Limited”. These are a corridor brake third, corridor third and first-class coaches, and a second corridor brake third, all of which are destined for Bournemouth West. The entire train is composed of ten vehicles, the coaches for Bournemouth West being followed by a corridor brake third, a corridor composite, a dining car, and a corridor third for Weymouth, and by a corridor brake composite and a corridor brake third for Swanage. The various portions of the train are clearly marked, the destination boards of the coaches for Weymouth being lettered for Waterloo, Bournemouth Central, Dorchester and Weymouth. Those of the Swanage portion indicate equally plainly that these two coaches serve Wareham and Swanage." The Bournemouth section is probably one of set 204-209. I don't think there are straightforward models of these, but a few years later sets 241-247 were being used. Hornby have produced the 243 set, other than the 'high' windows I'm not sure what the differences were. I feel uncomfortable with the description of the Weymouth section, since it does not appear to be one of Southern Railway's standard sets with a brake at both ends. In contrast, David Gould (p. 50) says 'One of the 390 class sets was running as a 5-coach portion of the Bournemouth Limited, with an adaptor fitted Dining Car and an Open Third of the 7864-9 series marshalled between the Composite and one of the Third Brakes.' Hornby have made Set 392 as R4394A and R4394B for the Brakes and R4299B as the Composite, produced a Dining Car R4816 and announced R40030 – SR Maunsell Third Class Dining saloon No. 7864 to Diagram 2652 in SR Lined Olive for Q4 2021, which will give me something that is close enough. For the Swanage portion the Brake Composite can be modelled with Hornby R4318 no. 6571-4 but I am having trouble identifying the Third Brake. Gould (p.58) has '2-coach Nos. 179 and 180, for the Swanage portion of the Bournemouth Limited' but that is for coaches built in 1930. In 1929 the Third Brake may have been an ex-LSWR coach, again I'm not sure which. Can anyone clarify these for me, or suggest other suitable models which could be used?

Thanks, that was what I thought.

I have a model labelled R4394B and another R4394A, both Hornby Maunsell 4 compartment brake coaches. Was there ever an R4394 or R4394C produced?

My head is spinning - can someone help me choose which GWR coaches to buy? I imagine my layout to be somewhere in south-east England, at any time from pre-grouping to early BR, depending on which stock I want to run. I want to liven things up with some inter-regional trains. Two interesting prototypes are the Cardiff-to-Brighton and Birkenhead/Wolverhampton to Dover/Margate/Brighton, especially the latter since it divides en-route at Redhill and Ashford. Thanks to David Gould's books and the spreadsheet This post https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/155385-gwr-into-kent-and-sussex-1900-30/&tab=comments#comment-4002520 describes "The 1925 Cardiff to Brighton was van third, third, composite, dining car, composite, third, van third GWR stock one day and SR the other. " and a 1929 Bournemouth-to-Birkenhead is described as "BTK-TK-CK-Dining-CK-TK-BTK". I believe the detached bits are all BTK-TK-BTK. So I'm thinking that I could use Hornby R4525 Railroad GWR Restaurant Coach until something better turns up, and the recent Collett carriages produced by Hornby, either the 57' Bow-ended corridor R4679-4683 or the range R4758-4762 and doctor them to give six-coach sets. Does anyone know why Hornby describe these as 6 coach trains, but only make 5 of them? Also I confess I am not sure what the difference is between these sets of coaches, so can anyone enlighten me? Is it that R4758-4762 are not Bow-ended? Or would Bachmann 60' coaches be more appropriate? Thanks for any help

In addition to the above, the coaches in R2985 "A Duchess at Carlisle" are of the same type. It's a hefty price to pay for three coaches, but you also get a lovely locomotive to go with them. So my "Going Home" train now has the original set, the coaches from R2659M The Royal Highlander and those from R2985 A Duchess at Carlisle plus R4802-R4805. Now the officers can sit in First Class conveniently close to the Restaurant car and there is R4233 baggage van for any Regimental Paraphanalia. None of the locomotives can pull the load around my simple oval on its own, it takes two, and they have to go very slowly over the points to avoid derailments. The First and Restaurant Cars make a nice visual break in what is otherwise a rather dull looking train. I'm wondering about stepping up and getting closer couplings and some weathering. Any thoughts about this?