trainlover23 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Are there any new releases??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 See the Hornby Uncut video on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 poliss said:See the Hornby Uncut video on YouTube.Interesting video. Shame about live steam... I was just about to commit to the idea of running a live steam loco in the garden. Looks like I may now have to take a punt on Evil bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaj Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Live steam is on hold until the economy picks up, it has been for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainlover23 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 bocaj said:Live steam is on hold until the economy picks up, it has been for a while now.I think it has finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightstar Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Hi trainlover123,Live Steam is not dead or finished!Join the 00 Live Steam Club at http://www.00livesteam.com We are looking at where live steam will be going. We have an active membership with help, advice and support for members and a current project looking into the possiblity of building new locomotives for members, with a wish list.We also attend various exhibitions around the country to actively promote the product.The next show will be at Doncaster on the 11th & 12th February.On occasions we have new and used sets and locos available for sale to members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaj Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 trainlover23 said:I think it has finishedIt's not finished, although it may seem like it. Hornby have said it's 'Sleeping' as it would be too expensive at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Chicken or egg - if there is no product, there can be no customers, and therefore no demand!Now - if they can make live steam operate from an Elite DCC controller...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaj Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 That would be good, steam from the controller. It is actually possible, you have to put a smoke generator in and a decoder which can operate functions. I think there is a demand for live steam, even though Hornnby have not relased any for a few years, there was when I saw the 00 Live steam club at Doncaster. Jacob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainlover23 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 2e0dtoeric said:Chicken or egg - if there is no product, there can be no customers, and therefore no demand!Now - if they can make live steam operate from an Elite DCC controller......DCC and live steam do not go together and Live Steam is FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaj Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 As Trainlover23 said, it does not work on DCC, unless you fit a smoke generator, which would only work on certain models. But if you look, 2e0dtoeric said If they can make live steam operate with the eliet, that does not mean that it does. Live steam is not finished, it's supposedly sleeping. Although in the Hornby Uncut video, some of the workers say that it is unlikely to be done again, not that it will never be done again. Jacob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Alright, Bocal, I'll rephrase my rather clumsy statement - Now - if they can make live steam loco's operate from an Elite DCC controller. :-) :-bI wouldn't want steam or smoke to come out of the controller! (That can be expensive!)I can't see why it would be difficult to drive live steam loco's from the Elite. You already have 15v ac to heat the boiler. (electric kettle style!), and just need a model aircraft style servo, with feedback pot for positioning control, to operate the regulator, controlled by the existing speed regulator on the controller rather than the pulsed dc motor/gearbox, as now, and one function to select forward or reverse timing.I have seen OO live steam loco's operated by r/c, at displays, so the conversion cannot be THAT difficult! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Live steam doesn't use 15v AC. It uses 17v pulsed DC as I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylans_Grandad Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I too bought probably one of the last Live Steam locos from Hattons. I set up a decent sized Oval on a new layout in the garage. Having tried out a number of steamings on a rolling road I eventually plucked up the courage to give it a track run. As expected it accellerated so quickly without carriages and came off on the second bend down the far end! I had prepared a soft cushion so no damage. After that I have only run with 4 carriages and gave it a few gentle nudges to get going. Once going I basically left it alone with very minor inputs. The garage is very cold this time of year so I'm waiting for some warmer weather before running again. I have provision to run either steam controller, DCC or analogue supplies so the layout is versatile. Separate inner ovals can connect to DCC or analogue only.I too hope to see further models but at least I have one to enjoy. Yet again my 10 year old Grandson is better at the control than I am. I handle the Hot Bits!JohnS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightstar Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Hi trainlover23,Live steam lives on with the 00Live Steam Club! We have a project to encourage members to make their own Live Steam Locomotives and we are working on the design of a LMS Duchess and a new handheld controller. Visit our stand at Alexandra Palace on the 24th & 25th March and at Peterborough on the 31st March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_West Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 [reply]Brightstar said:HiA Duchess would be no problem for the main engine just the tender would need more work. I beleive that the GWR did run a King with a 4 wheeled tender?Have had a look at your club and jon is it is barking up the wriong tree with his valve timing i think? and the taking apart of an A4 is good but what about putting back together?but apart from that the common thread is we all want a new engine and hope that Hornby will build one. it is good that many keep pluging away at a new loco and maybe one day a one off limited run might happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Live steam is finished for now. Spares are getting very thin on the ground too, with a lot of people hoarding piles of them.For example spares are essentially finished, just had an order for 100 bottles of R.8210 live steam oil and 50 X9190 superheaters the other day, that's cleared my complete stock of those parts out with no hope of ever getting anymore to sell. Perhaps Hornby will revisit the idea sometime in the future, live steams biggest let down was the different operating voltage and no DCC control ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightstar Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 gowest said: Hi Gowest,Jon's information on valve timing is based on information provided by the Inventor of the system and he has used this information to adjust the timng on his locomotives. Eric's description on dismantling the A3 was to help members fix their locomotives when they have a problem. If you can take it apart, following the steps in reverse should help you reassemble it. Why not pay a visit to our stand at one of the exhibitions and discuss this matter with members. As I said we will be at Alexandra Palace on the 24th & 25th and in Peterborough on the 31st March. We will also be at Llangollen on the 21st to 29th April, the Bristol Model Railway Exhibition on the 4th, 5th & 6th May, NRM Shildon on the 9th & 10th June and the West Wales Model Railway Exhibition, in Aberaeron on the 12th August, so there is plenty of choice. Prehaps you could bring your Schools along and give it a run on our exhibition stand. You can exchange information with the inventor about his Schools, built several years ago?[reply]Brightstar said:HiA Duchess would be no problem for the main engine just the tender would need more work. I beleive that the GWR did run a King with a 4 wheeled tender?Have had a look at your club and jon is it is barking up the wriong tree with his valve timing i think? and the taking apart of an A4 is good but what about putting back together?but apart from that the common thread is we all want a new engine and hope that Hornby will build one. it is good that many keep pluging away at a new loco and maybe one day a one off limited run might happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperbyJON Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 [reply]gowest HiHave had a look at your club and jon is it is barking up the wriong tree with his valve timing i think? GO WESTWHY AM I BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE PLEASE EXPLAIN - HAVE YOU SET UP TIMING ON A LIVE STEAM LOCO ???Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 For now Live Steam is little like a certain little narrow gauge railway, "perchance it slumbers". For now live steam is dead until Hornby re-visit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 no it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_West Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 trainlover23 said:DCC and live steam do not go together and Live Steam is FINISHEDI think you may be right sad to say it maybe the Live steam club could offer a new engine but i think that is unlikely as the cost just to put a new body on an A3 chassis would put it out of the reach of most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geochoice Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 2e0dtoeric said:Chicken or egg - if there is no product, there can be no customers, and therefore no demand!Now - if they can make live steam operate from an Elite DCC controller......Every chance the Elite I had would have given live steam prior to going flash and bang give a little longer time trial.Best live steam I know comes from kettle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Live steam for now is done, it's now obsolete. There's been lots of hot air expelled about new bodies and restarting production in a limited way by others one here but nothing seems to have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 If I could find out exactly what plastic is used for the making of the bodies and demand was enough I would make a mould for a rebuilt W1, it's easy to make a new mould from a stretched Hornby A4 with new cabsides. The A4 chassis would require modification and a new pony truck but that's about it. Sadly I doubt if demand is there, a while ago I was encouraged to make working lamps for the Hornby hydraulic buffer stops by model forum members and people at exhibitons saying they needed such an item so I went to a great deal of expense, machined up a mould for my small injection moulding machine and made working lamps then found no one wanted them after all, I ended up selling them all for peanuts just to get rid of the big batch I made.I think for now live steam is well and truly over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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