trainlover23

The whole of planes argument is totally flawed

The locos were permantly coupled and after the war became DB Class 288 stationed at Wurzburg to act as bankers for heavy freight over the steep gradients in the area. I think they were withdrawn around the early 80s but I am not sure

Look at the Woodland scenics just plug range it very good

I think you will find that the Dapol item does not exist

The coupling rods are upside down

Beware Maerklin is a 3 rail 16V AC system so spares MAY not work with 12V DC systems

Smoke oil is smoke oil Colin

Bimey that track looks well past its sell by date

Why it is all steel and not to scale

Don`t run before you can walk.

I am not critacising Hornby as it is today this was a desision made by Exin lines Brothers hence Triang as Hornby then was Mechano Limited in Liverpool who made a track system fully compatable with todays Hornby Super six track of today and yes Super 4 will conect to todays Hornby track but you need the convertor rails! Meccano Limited. The Hornby Dublo track is/was not compatable with Tri-angs System 6 the geometry was totally different

The answer is simple progress. As moulding techniques became easier track profiles became finer as did the quality of the models.

The British Railways examples only ran in Scotland and I don`t think that the Military versions worked on the railway network except during the war.Therefore demand would be small. The 2-8-0s worked virtually everywhere on BR eexcept possibly the Southern Region

Surely if the locos are NEW and boxed check the catalogue number --- if there is an X after the number it IS DCC fitted and if it has not got an X it ain`t Admin edit: As we still haven't got to the bottom of Steve's problem, I don't think a page of banter is suitable.

No just a few from each section.

Thank goodness I use gold old reliable DC and do not have to spend hours writing questions on here and an equal amount of hours reading the answers that are posted, some of which are pure drivel

Yes he must do it is also noted that the first post is dated 2009 I think you will find they started well before that date and as the song goes WE`ve heard it all before

Yes it has been in Hall 5 for a number of years now at least 8. It is common for most large exhibition cnetres to use halls which can be split. I was making the point that Warley is a small old hall on the NEC site when it clearly is not . Yet more rubbish from our freind

"Warley is a small old hall on NEC site" Warley exhibition is held in Hall 5 which happens to be one of the biggest halls available

Warley is a small old hall on NEC site. I know from the past some of our large wholesalers were in the big halls in the main building. Stand cost were large, then adding on to this transportation of goods, wages for staff, accommodation for three days the cost in total was in excess of £60k. But these were large stands in the large halls in the main building. A lot of money. But unlike Warley they were wholesalers, they took large orders for show deals, they took pre-orders for stock coming, they picked up leads for new business. Prior to retiring after selling the business our last order, to one of the big wholesalers was £18k. It was big business with a large price tag. . Warley will be less costly that is for sure, but no doubt still expensive, more expensive than smaller shows around the country because it is the NEC. At last you admit that the stand prices quoted were WHOLESALERS and MANUFACTUERS not for retailers

They are not point scoring attempts but are attempts at telling the truth which seems to have escaped some people

Gaydon Great Electric Train Show 30ft for TWO days £500 ish . Not that much different Ally Pally 30ft for TWO days £1000 ish A far cry from the £2400 to £3600 PER day quoted by SOT . Also SOT states Birmingham is to far to travel to yet in one post he states he does Malvern Toy Fair. Further from Norfolk to Malvern than Norfolk to Brum. There I have Proved my figures so all of you can make your own minds up

Will do BUT I think that SOT should be told to prove his figures as he is well known for overstating in the trade

What planet are you on certainly not Earth. Your figures are complete and utter fiction IF and only IF the figures quoted by you were correct do you honestly think that there would be any trade support at any of the big shows? I think it is sour grapes and a total alck of knowledge on your part . or may be the organisers do not want you