Postman Prat Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Don't you think we have enough 'glamour locos'? There's a far greater need for small, everyday locos of the type that operated 90% of the railway. When did you last see a Merchant Navy shunting in a goods yard or an A4 at the head of a pick-up freight? Certainly post 1923, if not earlier, they were painted black so you wouldn't have fancy liveries but if you want a model railway, as distinct from a train set, they are even more necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Very good. Excellent condition! I note the red steeple cab has a working pantograph. Mine still has most of the original plastic one (non-working)but the collector strip is missing. If I could get hold of an original to copy I'd try three=D printing to make a replacement. The son of Triangman said: For my friends here, a little of the collection I inherited for you all to see http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCN0289_zps79b929fe.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCN0290_zps0d1ed42a.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCN0288_zps201bce73.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCN0286_zps7e6a35c3.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCN0292_zps475e5950.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCN0293_zps0a924507.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCN0294_zpscfebc2a5.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCN0297_zps90eeb118.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCN0299_zps084dca25.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCN0298_zpsea476c03.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Hear hear! I totally agree PP. Some more branch line locos please. However I have seen Bullied Pacifics sort of shunting. They used to bring empties from Waterloo to Clapham Junction via the washer, if a smaller loco wasn't available, then sometimes they would go into the sidings to fetch empty carriages and work back to Waterloo. Always tender first. Looked odd. And not all little engines were black. Some of the small passenger tank engines got a colourful livery in pre-nationalisation days. Certainly on the GW and Southern, I can't speak for the others. Postman Prat said: Don't you think we have enough 'glamour locos'? There's a far greater need for small, everyday locos of the type that operated 90% of the railway. When did you last see a Merchant Navy shunting in a goods yard or an A4 at the head of a pick-up freight? Certainly post 1923, if not earlier, they were painted black so you wouldn't have fancy liveries but if you want a model railway, as distinct from a train set, they are even more necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 The little engines will always be more affordable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Totally agree PP, we need more small locos. I agree LC&DR the pantographs are hard to find. The Maroon steeple cab is a very rare version, it's always had a working pantograph and carries the BR roundel instead of the usual TR symbol, I've only ever seen one other like it with the BR roundel and that was 30 odd years ago in a junk box at an indoor fleamarket in Newark-on-Trent. It was bought from a trade fair from the Tri-ang stand around 1962, instructions say 1962. It has been out of it's box 3 times in all the years I have known it. Would be worth a mint if it came to general market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN104 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I've got six workhorses moving my local traffic PP .Got a soft spot for anything in black too. Just fancy a bit of extra colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 It is surprising what does turn up now and again. I found a maroon Trancontinental bogie diesel switcher, rare in itself, but someone had repainted it in green! Not only that but they had applied the cabside transfers from the Green Princess Elizabeth (46201) complete with orange and black lining. Who had done it I haven't a clue, but I have kept it as bought, just out of curiosity. Where they got the transfers I cannot guess. Did the factory sell them? The son of Triangman said: Totally agree PP, we need more small locos. I agree LC&DR the pantographs are hard to find. The Maroon steeple cab is a very rare version, it's always had a working pantograph and carries the BR roundel instead of the usual TR symbol, I've only ever seen one other like it with the BR roundel and that was 30 odd years ago in a junk box at an indoor fleamarket in Newark-on-Trent. It was bought from a trade fair from the Tri-ang stand around 1962, instructions say 1962. It has been out of it's box 3 times in all the years I have known it. Would be worth a mint if it came to general market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 They did indeed sell the princess transfers LC&DR and late and early BR totems, GWR 8751 transfers were available and others. strangely the BR roundel transfers weren't on the trade list but odd ones turn up on the "bay" sometimes. Transfers were sold to the trade for repair work mainly. Tri-ang Transfers Early BR Lion Riding Wheel, Light Yellow later BR Totem and post 1965 BR steam late totems. http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCF0016_zpsc05f1d0b.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCF0008_zpsa15b432e.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCF0009_zps9825965f.jpg http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCF0015_zps2fd770db.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Side shot of an 08 that came in for tlc shoeing the later BR steam era Totem Transfer in situ. http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t43/thetriangman/DSCF0004_zps107d0163.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 I mean showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony57 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 My latest buys are two blue dummy double cab transcontinental engines with MK111 couplings in play worn condition, I have rewheeled them with Hornby 14.1mm metal wheels with rimed brass pinpoint bearings as two wheels were busted, also a Trix/Lilliput Class 52 in maroon renamed Western Thunderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 So probably some dealer repainted it as a customer request, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Quite possibly LC&DR, such oddities turn up now and then. I found a pink Jinty with Tri-ang BR double arrows a while ago! I stripped her back to the plastic and reliveried the loco into LMS livery, it made a nice loco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony57 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 HI LC&DR No it in original colour only name and number have been changed, They came in Maroon green and blue. I have 2 blue 2 green and 4 maroon 98 in total). In a previous comment you made about the lack of replacement pantographs on steeples cabs and EM2s, there have been several articals in the Hornby Mag this year showing EM2's with double collecting strips on their pantographs. I have 5 EM2s a couple with busted pantographs. What I have done is cut off the busted top half of the triang pantograph at the halfway horizontal pin and used the top half of a joulf pantograph which fits in the holes vacated by the pins perfectly, the effect is quite good likeness, had to do two transcontinental green and orange overheads as a trial run. I have looked at sommerfelt and other makes but they need major surgery to the roof to make them fit which I don't want to do. Thought this might be of some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony57 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Sorry that is 8 in total not 98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometcruiser Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Im starting from scratch after not enjoying a Hornby set for a fair few years since when I was a child and my dad built me one. Well now i'm a dad and im builing a small set for my 8 year old son and I to enjoy. I have a limited budget so have gone for second hand sets from ebay. I started with the intercity 225 set from the mid 90's (my favorite engine as I had the 91 as a child) and the 47 class intercity Night Mail set. I am intending to have a simple twin loop with some sidings and a passing loop and running both trains at the same time. I have expanded the stock with some freight containers for the 47 to pull when not being the mail train. And for the track board I got a good deal on the mainline station set and the double level crossing. In all it should ad up to a cheap set with plenty to do and child freindly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike70 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 DEAN104 said: Come on Hornby let's have some more express blue locomotives please. They've done the following classes that I'm aware of; A3 A4 Duchess Princess King Any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Prat Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Apart from the A1 and A2 which are only made by the blue box boys, and the Airsmoothed Merchant Navy, which is made by no-one, all classes that ran in blue have been done, so far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 What about Hornby's R2171 rebuilt Merchant Navy 35028 "Canadian Pacific?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike70 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Postman Prat said: Apart from the A1 and A2 which are only made by the blue box boys, and the Airsmoothed Merchant Navy, which is made by no-one, all classes that ran in blue have been done, so far as I know. I'll have one of each thanks. Nothing stopping Hornby doing an A1. A Google search brought up an O gauge model of the Airsmoothed Merchant Navy class. Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike70 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Graskie said: What about Hornby's R2171 rebuilt Merchant Navy 35028 "Canadian Pacific?" There is also Tornado in Express Blue. But obviously it did not operate in the late 40's / early 50's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Prat Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Hi Graskie I was referring to locos which ran in BR service, during the period 1948-52. As the Merchant Navy class were not rebuilt until 1956-60 this could not apply to the rebuilt locos. 35005 Canadian Pacific, as rebuilt, only ran in blue in preservation, from 2000-2002 approx. Graskie said: What about Hornby's R2171 rebuilt Merchant Navy 35028 "Canadian Pacific?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Prat Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Hi Mike As you say, Tornado is running in BR Blue and Hornby can do this one, which is the only member of this class that they make. The other A1s they do are Gresley A1s, the predecessors of the A3s. The A1s in blue were the Peppercorn class, some of which were actually built in BR Blue. Mike70 said: I'll have one of each thanks. Nothing stopping Hornby doing an A1. A Google search brought up an O gauge model of the Airsmoothed Merchant Navy class. Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Postman Prat said: Hi Graskie I was referring to locos which ran in BR service, during the period 1948-52. As the Merchant Navy class were not rebuilt until 1956-60 this could not apply to the rebuilt locos. 35005 Canadian Pacific, as rebuilt, only ran in blue in preservation, from 2000-2002 approx. Graskie said: What about Hornby's R2171 rebuilt Merchant Navy 35028 "Canadian Pacific?"Yes, you're right, PP, but I was answering the question of what blue liveried BR locos had been issued by Hornby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike70 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Postman Prat said: Hi Mike As you say, Tornado is running in BR Blue and Hornby can do this one, which is the only member of this class that they make. The other A1s they do are Gresley A1s, the predecessors of the A3s. The A1s in blue were the Peppercorn class, some of which were actually built in BR Blue. Mike70 said: I'll have one of each thanks. Nothing stopping Hornby doing an A1. A Google search brought up an O gauge model of the Airsmoothed Merchant Navy class. Very nice. I automatically assumed you meant the Gresley A1's. Is it much of a stretch for Hornby to produce the original Peppercorn A1's from the Tornado mold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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