81F Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I would like to see an updated 101 with a decent pain job, chassis and separate handrails. Ive just fitted Romford drivers to a Little giant and will soon start scraping away the handrails. I have to admit the new slightly smaller wheels improve its look no end but still only has three speed very fast sorwar and reverse and stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81F Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share Posted August 13, 2011 Regarding my post above, I could see that a pecket making more sense as preserved/industrial versions could be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 81F said:Regarding my post above, I could see that a pecket making more sense as preserved/industrial versions could be made.A Peckett would be much more preferable. There is no need to update the Holden tank.There is a nice web page on wikipedia named GWR 0-4-0STAccording to this, there were 14 Pecketts, 4 Hudwsell Clarkes, 3 Avonsides, 2 Andrew Barclays, 2 Hawthorne Leslies, 2 Brush and a Kitson, in the GWR, most of the from the Welsh railways absorbed in 1923.Any of these, but particularly a Peckett, would be very welcome.1101-1106 0-4-0T Avonside (side tanks)1391 0-4-0ST Avonside Ex-West Cornwall1340 0-4-0ST Avonside 'Trojan' Ex-Alexandra (Newport and South Wales) Docks and Railway1341 'Alexandra' Ex-Alexandra (Newport and South Wales) Docks and Railway1338-1339 0-4-0ST Kitson Ex-Cardiff Railway696, 779, 935, 927 0-4-0ST Peckett & Sons Ex-Powlesland and Mason795, 921 0-4-0ST Brush Ex-Powlesland and Mason925 0-4-0ST Avonside Ex-Powlesland and Mason928 0-4-0ST Andrew Barclay & Sons Ex-Powlesland and Mason942 0-4-0ST Hawthorne Leslie Ex-Powlesland and Mason150 0-4-0ST Huswell Clarke Ex-Swansea Harbour Trust1140 0-4-0ST Andrew Barclay & Sons Ex-Swansea Harbour Trust886, 926, 930, 933, 929, 968, 1098 0-4-0ST Peckett & Sons Ex-Swansea Harbour Trust 943 0-4-0ST Hudsell Clarke Ex-Swansea Harbour Trust974 0-4-0ST Hawthorne Leslie Ex-Swansea Harbour Trust1133, 1184, 999 0-4-0T Ex-Taff Vale Railway1342, 1343 0-4-0ST Hudswell Clarke Ex-Taff Vale Railway1 0-4-0ST 'Hercules' Peckett & Sons Ex-Ystalyfera Tin Works (absorbed 1948) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 The holden 101 is long overdue for retirement. lets hope Hornby bring out a nice scale 0-4-0ST, and a nice coarse scale Railroad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I agree with SoT, we need something new in small locomotives, and the Peckett is probably the best. It would allow the L&Y pug to be 'rested' too. A realistic small diesel shunter is another 'must have' and there are so many to choose from. Remembering how good the 'Dock Authority' was because it used a motor bogie as a power unit, and did not need coupling rods, I would therefore strongly recommend the Rolls Royce Sentinel 4w diesel hydraulic, the version with chain drive, of which there are quite a few preserved. It has the advantage that the power unit could also be used under the steam Sentinel shunter (Garden Shed) as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 LC&DR said:I would therefore strongly recommend the Rolls Royce Sentinel 4w diesel hydraulic, the version with chain drive, of which there are quite a few preserved. It has the advantage that the power unit could also be used under the steam Sentinel shunter (Garden Shed) as well.Seeing as another manufaturer has made a very nice LNER steam Sentinel shunter (which I assume is the "Garden Shed" version you reference) under commission by Model Rail, I would think they would be the logical ones to leverage this mechanism in a diesel version, and even conceivably, the Sentinel railcar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Here's a treasure trove of images of locomotives by Peckett & Sons.See: http://www.martynbane.co.uk/peckett/locos.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 dear ozexpatriate the sentinel which has been made is the Y3 which is steam loco with a vertical boiler and two gear chain drive. the one that realy looks like a shed is a y11 in original condition a simplex petrol and how about some HUNSLET LOCOMOTIVE steam or deseli dont mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buz Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I know How about a Peckett R4 its even got a Hornby catalog no ;-) .Available in Red, Green, Yellow and Blue with a super heavy chassis and low geared slow speed so it will be a very good shunter. With a name plate choice, seperate loco No plates brass whistle and safety valves lined out available as an adult model and also as a simpler Railroad jnr model And defiantly no company names or other garbage to spoil its nice clean railway like looks.As for a noisy box on wheels how about a class 02 shunterregards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I have very fond memories of a sentinel working in the late 1960's and early 1970's it was called St Monans and worked at British Gypsum Hawton Plaster Works just up the road from my grandparnets lived, the lines to the quarries ran right alongside the road and you could see the loco at work, some days a small Peckett called Hilda would be at work and a third pecket, St Monans and Hilda are still with us thankfully.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 So a new peckett 0-4-0ST and a "potting shed" sentinel would be a good introduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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