The Doc Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I wonder if anyone else would be interested in a ready to run J69? With Hornby's recent focus on GER locos - the J15, D16 and forthcoming B12 - it would be nice to have a small tank engine to go with these. They were long lived little locos, and look beautiful in GER blue. Towards the ends of their lives they were also more widespread, not just in the east of England. I currently have a Wills/South Eastern Finecast white metal body kit which I bought cheaply off ebay but I haven't yet got around to motorising it. My plan is to fit a Bachmann J72 chassis, as the wheelbase and wheel size are very close, but the older J72 models are often poor runners, so I might have to wait until Bachmann bring out their newer version. I'd prefer it though if Hornby produced their own version as I am sure it would look better than my rather crude whitemetal model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 I should add that there is also a preserved loco at the NRM in York so researching the loco shouldn't be too difficult./media/tinymce_upload/4c6b3f6547b765dcc3b1c2488766762b.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I would like one. These little engines came over on to the Southern via the East London Line at New Cross / New Cross Gate, and were occasionally seen at Blackheath and Hither Green on short goods workings. Jolly little engines. I remember seeing the Liverpool Street pilot painted by BR in GER blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Graham Farish had a version in N Gauge.... It was beautiful in Blue! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 Seeing the J69 in GER blue makes me wonder if Hornby might also consider a backdated version of the B12 as originally built (classified as S69 by the GER), with Belpaire firebox and ornate splashers over the wheels, as in the photo below./media/tinymce_upload/f26ea7dae522bd1ce5cf1db43c43bf29.gifIn the days when I started railway modelling, I could imagine a company like Crownline producing a kit to convert the Hornby model into this version. Perhaps nowadays someone could produce 3D printed parts to adapt the forthcoming Hornby model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 @TheDocSee the Live Steam forum where Gowest is building a brass live steam S69. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 Putting all that expert engineering into a 00 gauge live steam model is very impressive - way out of my league! I've made a few whitemetal kits, nothing in etched brass, and I've never managed to get a chassis to run to my satisfaction (yet). I really hope Go West's S69 runs better than my purely electric attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Crownline is sorely missed. That company and other similar parts makers made model railways a lot more fun for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Brick Back Crownline (or that type of parts/ kits supply!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 A J69 would be most welcome along with an E4 as they were common place in East Anglia on branch duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 The J69 surprisingly did not make the top 50 in the latest Wish List Poll, and actually came 30th in the steam loco category behind the Sentinel Rail Car and Big Bertha! The N7, and J26 / J27 also beat it to being the favourite as yet unmade LNER type. I must confess I am baffled by some of the votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Prat Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Hi SoT Good to see you back. I hope everything went well with 'the medics' and you're back to Full Working Order. I agree that an E4 would be nice but I think the Swedey modellers have done quite well lately. Although the Q6 has arrived we're still lacking in other types to stamp 'NER' on a layout. The GER modeller can do this to a large extent with what is, or recently has been, available. Feel sorry for the Scots, they've got nothing at all, to modern standards, suitable for their layouts. Once again, nice to see you back. We'll have a difference of opinion soon, no doubt.!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Good to be back PP and LCDR. Friendly debate is always welcome PP. I agree PP the Scottish modellers and NER modellers have been largely forgotten. A jones goods would be nice and a Glen, A J27 would be good too and a Raven Pacific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Something not widely appreciated is that theJ69s were to be found in many places in Scotland, 68429, 68511, 68524, 68525, 68533, 68535, 68544, 68550, 68551, 68552, 68555, 68562, 68623, & 68636. These included St Margarets, Thornton Junction, Dumfries, Polmont, Bathgate, Eastfields, and Kittybrewster. As well as nearly every shed in East Anglia they also found their way to London Midland and Eastern Region (Great Northern and Great Central section) sheds such as -Sheffield Grimethorpe 68497, 68669,Staveley 68512, 68523, 68530, 68558, 68589, 68591, 68592, 68608, 68616, 68618,Doncaster 68507, 68508, 68520, 68556, 68621Wrexham 68531, 68533, 68559, 68584, 68585Trafford Park 68540, 68583, 68595, 68598Hitchin 68541Hatfield 68572Widnes 68547Although they seem to move about with considerable regularity. Other sheds included Leicester, Colwick, Langwith, New England, Peterborough, Carlisle, Brunswick, Retford, Lincoln, Barrow Hill, Walton on the Hill, Darnall, Canklow, Mexborough, So they would be one of the most widely distributed classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 Thanks LC&DR - detailed and informative as always. So it isn't just Suffolk swedes like me who could have a J69 on their layout.I also note that the N7 came out top of the LNER poll on rmweb. I'd love one of those to pull my suburban services. At present these trains are hauled by a Hornby N2 or a Bachmann V3, both ex-LNER classes, but I don't think either of them ever got as far east as where my layout is meant to be based (Ipswich in the late 50s). Mind you, I also have a few A3s and an A4 which I cannot resit running up the mainline, as well as a P1 and Cock o' the North, so I can bend the regional and chronological rules whenever I like). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 The L1 2-6-4T was a regular performer at Livepool Street, I spotted plenty there, (and at Kings Cross too of course) . I saw them on the same services as the N7s. Electrification finally saw them off if course but right up to the end, 1961 ish they could be seen on Palace Gates to North Woolwich services. These too were found in many areas. They could at some time be found at Toton, Gorton, Darlington, Colwick, Hull, Ardsley, Middlesborough / Thornaby. and Bradford as well as all over the Great Eastern and Great Northern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 Thanks LC, I had thought about getting an L1 but I have heard quite a few reports of them derailing on curves and points, which concerned me. I'm not too good at fiddling with wheels/bogies etc. trying to get them exactly as they should be. I had lots of problems with an A4 a few years back, to the point where I had to re-lay a whole section of track. The loco is still imperfect, but better than it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I am not sure about the performance of Hornby's L1, I have one but it has only ever run on the rolling road. Does anyone else on here have one that could comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Eastern Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Only just found this, but I have built the J69 body kit and my idea was to look at J72 as a chassis. Have you actually done it? Or has anyone? It would be good to hear of anyone's experience before I dive in!Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 Only just found this, but I have built the J69 body kit and my idea was to look at J72 as a chassis. Have you actually done it? Or has anyone? It would be good to hear of anyone's experience before I dive in!ThanksI've not tried it yet - I'm awaiting the new Bachmann version of the J72. The split chassis of the older model will cause some problems. For a start, it is quite wide in places to give extra weight inside the tiny J72 body and part of the J69 body would have to be cut away from the inside. Secondly, because it is the split chassis design, the two halves are opposite polarity, so if they were both in contact with the whitemetal body, there will be a short circuit. So either the chassis block or the insides of the body might have to be covered in insulating tape at critical points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Doesn't SEF make a chassis kit for the J69? An 0-6-0 should not be too hard to build, and it would be a better fit than a Bachmann one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 I've only made 2 chassis in the past, and neither ran as well as modern locos. Plus, an etched chassis, gearbox, motor and wheels can work out surprisingly expensive. Yes, you will have the satisfaction of building it yourself, but not all of us have the skill set or time to build something like a chassis. Also, some chassis kits are quite rigid and would struggle with 2nd and 3rd radius curves. Hence I am keen on a ready to run chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirchuffalot Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 An excellent idea - and we’re still waiting 3 years later ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 In the 2018 Wish List Poll the J67 & J69 came 6th in the list of LNER locomotives wanted by voters. 208 votes received in total. It was beaten by the W1 4-6-4, (274 votes) Sentinel Railcar (267 votes), P2 with Buggatti nose (254 votes), NER / LNE J26/J27 (217 votes), and K4 2-6-0 (211 votes), So there may be some hope! A fresh poll is imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 The J66/J67/J68 variants would also be good additions as would the J61's(GCR class 4) and the three J64's that ran on the Middy. J66's were found over most of East Anglia, allocated to Stratford, Colchester, Ipswich, Norwich, Lowestoft, Cambridge, Peterborough, King's Lynn, and Lincoln Sheds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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