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The first few coats of paint are now going on...

 

I will finish off this model as WDP4 #20037 in the livery that I designed.

 

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These are cruel closeups, looks a look better to the naked eye. The print lines are barely visible to the naked eye. So I've not sanded them down as I don't want to ruin the detail. And as it stands, it currently has a coat of gloss varnish to apply decals. This means that the gloss varnish actually highlights all the imperfections more. Once it's got a matte coat it will look far better.

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I eventually gave up with trying to scratch build/kitbash my main station building so 3D printed it using Shapeways. Although I've painted it I still have a few components to make such as the toilet skylight and canopy rooves. 

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My next project is another electric locomotive from Hornby. Got it as a gift from Tim, one of my clients...

 

Thanks to Tim, I can not design a detailing kit for the Hornby Class 86. And I will be covering as many variantions as possible.

 

Simple beginnings... removing the tampo printed detail on the face of the loco.

 

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My plan is the created a 3D printed detailing kit covering the various underframe designs, the various tanks on the roof, buffers and a pantograph.

 

I've got a whole load of spare detailing parts from a couple of ViTrains Class 37s and 47s.

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And here's my Indian Railways WDP4 Co-Co Diesel-Electric locomotive.

 

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I'm not 100% happy with the paint job, but it was one of the few I've painted. A rushed job also didn't help much. But there's always room to improve. I'm happy that I've gotten details like the full cab interior, etched see-through radiator grilles and etched see-through DBR grilles and a host of other fine details like bogie and underframe details.

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JB

I am fascinated by your Indian Railway project, is there anything available commercially for it or are you obliged to make everything yourself from scratch. And how easy is it to get hold of drawings and plans to enable you to make models in such detail. Do you take your information directly from the real trains (by measurement or photography)?

LC&DR

 

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I am fascinated by your Indian Railway project, is there anything available commercially for it or are you obliged to make everything yourself from scratch. And how easy is it to get hold of drawings and plans to enable you to make models in such detail. Do you take your information directly from the real trains (by measurement or photography)?

LC&DR

 

 

Hey LC&DR,

 

Nothing is available commercially except the kits I make. No RTR though. It's either the kits, scratch-building or kit-bashing.

 

I knew a gentleman during my time on RMweb who kit-bashed a Bombay DC Local from Hornby Mk.1 coaches. Based on that you can make all ICF/BEML coaching stock using Hornby Mk.1 coaches. You can make LHB coaches from Hornby Mk.4 bogies. The Hornby Class 66 motorbogie can be used to make a WDP4, WDP4B, WDP4D, WDG4 and WDG4D. A lot of the steam loco chassis can be used for IR locos and a lot of British locos came to India before 1950, so converting them is straightforward.

 

Drawings are a hit and miss actually. There's only a couple of highly accurate drawings. Whilst measurements are more or less accurate, the drawings are far from it. I create my own drawings that I generate from research trips to various Loco Sheds (TMDs).

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On the 23rd and 24th of November, I had the opportunity to attend and exhibit at the first Model Railroader's Exhibition organized and held by the National Rail Museum, New Delhi.

 

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Mr. Ashwani Lohani (Chairman of Air-India and ex-Chairman of the Railway Board) having a look at some of the models I had on display at the Model Railroader's Exhibition.

 

The Model Railroader's Exhibition was held alongside the Indian Steam Railway Society's Annual conference. Member's of the ISRS are mainly made of a lot of gentlemen from the UK and India. It was absolutely thrilling to have my little stall surrounded with people who had a genuine passion for all the trains (both real and model). The two day event was held at the NRM the first day and the second day comprised of a steam excursion from Delhi Cantonment to Rewari Jn. We had a special train for us which comprised of two refurbished ICF coaches hauled by the world's oldest working steam locomotive - "Fairy Queen".

 

At Rewari Jn, we were taken to the Rewari Steam Loco Shed and had a chance to crawl all over an assortment of MG and BG steam locos all of whch were in either working condition or being restored to working condition.

 

It was a thrilling experience and my first time heading out to display my models and show them off the people from various countries.

 

I'll have more of this in a separate thread that'll I'll be posting covering the whole event.

 

Cheers!

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Very impressive. And I suspect most satisfying to see your results.

 

35 years ago I and a group of like minded individuals decided that more information was needed about the goods wagons used on British Railways to enable a greater variety of models to be made, and at that time BR was scrapping wagons at an alarming rate and we were in danger of missing out on some interesting types. So we visited railway yards and with permission took photographs and detailed measurements of as many as we could. We soon realised that if we didn't do it a massive amount of information would be lost.

 

Ultimately we recorded over 800 different types. One of our group now has a very successful website which contains his photographs of the vehicles we found, and I have produced scale drawings of vehicles some of which have already been used in books and magazine articles.

 

I have also used the fruits of our labours in  producing models for my own layouts. 

 

I suspect that a great deal of information HAS been lost around the world, so it is good to see that others are working to investigate and make records and models which will keep the history of railways alive.  I have a interest in the Railways of Mauritius which were closed in 1964 and have gathered as much information as I can about them, but because of health issues I can no longer travel there to carry on my investigations, and I know that much has already been lost. However I do know that there are one or two people who can still visit the country and are carrying on the studies.

 

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Equally impressive! You've done a great job...

 

Recently my team mate Hayley managed to get in touch with a lady who has a passion for building OO gauge prototypes of all the obscure GWR wagons. I've managed to source scale drawings from her to design kits for them.

 

So hopefully in 2020 I'll have a nice little range of GWR wagons.

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It is only when I see your models up against a real world reference that I recall the gauge in which you print and produce models. It is great to see your work in such illustrious company. Look forward to more news. R-

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It is only when I see your models up against a real world reference that I recall the gauge in which you print and produce models. It is great to see your work in such illustrious company. Look forward to more news. R-

 

Thanks RogerB,

 

Lots more in store over the coming months, more rolling stock, 2 diesel locos, 1 electric loco and 1 steam loco.

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I've posted two new threads summarizing my trip to the "National Railway Museum, New Delhi" and the "Steam Loco Excursion with the Fairy Queen to Rewari". Follow the links below...

 

-  A Visit to the National Rail Museum, New Delhi

https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/forum/a-visit-to-the-national-rail-museum-new-delhi/

 

A Date with the "Fairy Queen":-

https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/forum/a-date-with-the-fairy-queen/

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It's been 4 months! I've done a lot of work in the past few months. I'll post CAD pictures of my latest work, for now I thought I'll share some of Tim Shaw's work. Incase anyone needs a reminder, he is a client and good friend of mine from the UK who models the Indian Railways in 1:76 scale. He uses 22mm gauge for BG and 12mm gauge to replicate MG. His layout is a fictional one called Jamalsari (from Jamalpur and Mughalsarai) and is based on the Eastern Railway division of the Indian Railways. It is set in the 1960-70 period.

 

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I find your and your client's project to model the Indian Railways most interesting, and praiseworth, this is what model railways should be about, Everything has to be modelled from scratch, even the track gauge is correct. Absolutely brilliant!

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Very nice models. Just had a thought about the bogie hopper body being held up. Could the stratification caused by the laying down of the 3d print material be reduced by changing the orientation of the printing so it was printed on its side?

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I find your and your client's project to model the Indian Railways most interesting, and praiseworth, this is what model railways should be about, Everything has to be modelled from scratch, even the track gauge is correct. Absolutely brilliant!

 

Thanks LC! Thanks for those kind words. Certainly encouraging.

 

Tim's biggest hurdled was always track. IIRC he has his track handbuilt but a professional in the business. We're trying to 3D print concrete track bases and test that out too. I model the Indian Railways in 1:87 scale, I was going to opt for P4 gauge track, however at the time I decided to make a start, companies like C&L went through difficult times. So I stuck to basic HO scale track. I'm not a rivet-counter as many would call it, but a finer gauge track was on my priorities list. But I've just had to learn to live with it.

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 @ JeremiahBunyan

 

Very nice models. Just had a thought about the bogie hopper body being held up. Could the stratification caused by the laying down of the 3d print material be reduced by changing the orientation of the printing so it was printed on its side?

 

Hi 81F, the bogie hopper was a Shapeways print from a year or so ago, before I found the factory in China. Shapeways' 3D print quality is terrible. I've found a Chinese factory who does 3D printing at a fraction of the cost and the overall finish is far superior to that of Shapeways.

 

I'm adding a comparison image of two Indian Railway C-type wagons. The model on top is from Ivan in China, the lower one is from Shapeways in The Netherlands. Note that in these images, no post-printing work (sanding, filing, cleaning etc.) has been done, Tim has just used a red primer on them to highlight the 3D prints in their raw form. Cost wise - Ivan in China charged us $15. Shapeways charged us $45. Note the detail on the axle boxes and the I.R logo on them axle caps, the 3D print from China is crisp and absolutely superb, the Shapeways one is just a blob. The only visible blemishes on the Chinese one is the small node where the supports once were. The resin used in China is highly durable also. Im most cases it's more flexible than injection moulded plastic.

 

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Boy do I have some updates for you!!!

 

Enjoy the pictures below...

 

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- The model is my very own JBM Indian Railways WDP4

- Weathering was done by Kaustav Chatterjee from "Trains & Dioramas"

- The diorama was something we've commissioned once again from "Trains & Dioramas"

 

More images to follow....

 

Cheers!

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Posting some more images....

 

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Weathered by my good friend Kaustav...

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