TTS Sound Bachmann Tornado

[ron 47]

Hi All

i have a Bachmann Tornado and as Hornby are bring out the A1 Sound Chip how ease is going to be to put the TTS in to the Loco 8 pin

thank Ron

[96RAF]

Bachmann locos tend to have 21 pin sockets. Check the box and see what it says if you haven't already had the top off to look.

 

TTS is an 8 pin decoder with a 28mm round speaker although this can be changed to a cube if space allows.

 

The Hornby TTS fit is designed for tender mounting, but you can mount the decoder in the loco if that's where the socket is and extend the speaker wires to the tender.

Rob

[ron 47]

Hi Rob it an 8 pin but i know that there is plenty of room in the tender as i have the blue Backmann Tornado i have a lock sound chip in this but need to have a TTS as Haven got the £100 pound for a Lock sound chip

[96RAF]

Can you get service sheets for bacchy locos to give you an idea of space in back.

 

Have a look at the Mallard article on my website linked in my signature for a few clues to installing TTS to a loco decoder. Aplastic Humbrol tin with the top cut off makes a good universal speaker enclosure.

Rob

[ron 47]

Hi Rob thank you i will let you know how it goes the TTS is not out till 23/8/17 so got a bit of a wate

regards Ron

[96RAF]

Ron

I don't know how Bachman take power across from loco to tender and if there is any spare wires in their system but if not you can just extend the speaker wires across meaning the tender has to stay connected or you can fit a two pin plug and socket so the tender can be disconnected.

 

You have plenty of time to plan it out and gather the extra bits you will need. Post some pictures up of the existing connector and people may be able to suggest how to do it.

Rob

[STJ]

Has anyone succeeded in fiting TTS sound into the Tornado tender? Wish I'd bought the Hornby model.

 

[Ruffnut Thorston]

You may already be aware that there are adaptors to fit the 21pin socket, with an 8 pin socket on top.

 

So you can plug an 8 pin decoder into a 31 pin socket....as long as there is enough vertical room that is....

[STJ]

Yes, I actually bought the adaptor only to find when i got the body off that this must be an original Tornado as it had an 8 pin socket. Still no room to fit the TTS speaker so I planned to extend the wires and fit it the tender. But how do you get the tender body off? Two easy screws at the front and a third that is all but inaccessible. Maybe I'll try and fit it in our old Scotsman with tender drive.

Thanks anyway Sarah.

[Rog RJ]

Body fixing screws are sometimes hidden by the coupling mounts.  Try removing them and look for screws, often deeply recessed, underneath.

 

Sometimes the bodies are just clip fit with no fixing screws used at all.  Hornby do this with some models, not sure about other makes.

[WilliamDavid]

I have a Bachmann Tornado where the tender is not electrically connected to the loco.

I fitted the TTS decoder in the loco (has 8 pin socket) and extended the speaker wires through to a speaker in the tender.

The tender top only has the two front screws (non under the coupling) so I presume you have to unhook it at the rear. 

[morairamike]

Ditch the supplied speaker and fit a sugar cube in the loco. If needs be and you want to fit in tender buy Hornby 4 lead lih and so let to connect the loco and tender. The weak point on my TTS units has been the speaker.

[STJ]

I have a Bachmann Tornado where the tender is not electrically connected to the loco.

I fitted the TTS decoder in the loco (has 8 pin socket) and extended the speaker wires through to a speaker in the tender.

The tender top only has the two front screws (non under the coupling) so I presume you have to unhook it at the rear. 

 

Many thanks for this WilliamDavid. I have just succeeded in getting the tender body off but I had to unscrew a third screw under the trailing wheels using the tiniest screwdriver I could find. Fingers crossed I can get it back on but you gave me the confidence to try again so,as I say, many thanks.

 

[STJ]

Ditch the supplied speaker and fit a sugar cube in the loco. If needs be and you want to fit in tender buy Hornby 4 lead lih and so let to connect the loco and tender. The weak point on my TTS units has been the speaker.

 

 

Is it just a case of cutting off the Hornby speaker and soldering on a sugar cube? I've ordered one anyway. Thanks for this.

 

[Chrissaf]

@STJ,

You will have better luck with your replies if you do not use the 'white arrow in the blue box' button. This is not a 'Reply to this post' button. When you end up with your new text trapped inside the buff highlight it is so hard to see what is your new additional text. Your questions can end up being ignored because members think you have just reposted a quote and not added anything new.

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There is realistically no reason to requote a previous post that is still on the same forum page as your reply.

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Can I humbly suggest that next time you do not use the Blue button. It is best if you write your reply in the 'Reply to this post' text box at the bottom of the page and click the Green 'Reply' button.

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Not having a go, using the blue button is something all relative newbies on the forum seem to do for some reason. I blame the forum SW developers for putting it there, just where a 'Reply' button is expected to be.

[STJ]

Thanks Chrissaf. One lives and learns-  particularly as a first timer!

[morairamike]

Sorry STJ, that larlt post of mine the predicative text ran smoke.

It should say if you decide to put the speaker in the tender then use a Hornby 4 way plug and socket.

Yes it's a case of unsoldering the fitted speaker, do it at the speaker not the decoder and then solder the leads to the sugar cube speaker. 

[morairamike]

Sorry again so fed up with predicted text. Larlt is last. Smoke is a mock.

Anyway part number is X6113 or X9958, for the plug and socket. The expensive Noteone has a small screw with it, the bag contains both the plug and socket pre wired despite what you see in the pictures.