81F Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I have come across a number of Hornby (China made) 8Fs on ebay (some at quite reasonable prices compared to conventional ones. Had there just been the odd one fr4oma single seller I would have assumed that this was a repaint by a previous owner, but I've seen more than one from different sellers, the last being a bodyshell only. Does anyone know anything about these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Could you give us a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I've actually seen these in the last few weeks as well. Here's one:https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HORNBY-R855-FACTORY-SAMPLE-CHROME-LNER-4-6-2-CLASS-A3-LOCO-4472-FLYING-SCOTSMAN/332887956589?epid=1251874378&hash=item4d81ab1c6d:g:R00AAOSwQZVb7~vu:rk:2:pf:1&frcectupt=true Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olly Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 They were made for Hornby staff as a gift when they left or retired .when they made models at Margate. Usually, a flying Scotsman as they were in production more than other models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81F Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 Many thanks olly85, So they are probably a bit collectable - Oh dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Why 'oh dear' may I ask? Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Cool! 😎 I have never seen one of those before. I actually fancy getting one, actually. Oh dear! 😮 😆 😉 😀 The eBay link posted by atom3624 on Posted at 10:37:59 Mon, 28 Jan 2019, looks to me that's a Great Britain made model, due to the fact it has the shorter in length coupiling hooks. Also, the eBay listing says "factory sample", so is it a factory sample or is it a gift to those who retired from working at Hornby Hobbies? GNR-Gordon-4 (HF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Olly said "They were made for Hornby staff as a gift when they left or retired" and then 1 hour later Jacob said "is a gift to those who retired". Why repeat what has been said? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 WTD, I asking what whih it is, not repeating what other's have said. GNR-Gordon-4 (HF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Then the answer is both. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Gents, does it matter? !! It's a nice gesture if a little weird, from Hornby - or was as it appears to have been for Margate products. Not certain if I'd run one on my track - I suppose it's never intended to be - and imagine seeing a full sized locomotive chrome plated? !! Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I only wanted to confirm which it is or both, that WTD has now said confirmed (With thanks to WTD), as I have never seen a chrome painted Flying Scotsman before and I wnated to know it's reason for it's release. Has anybody got an image of a chrome painted 28XX? GNR-Gordon-4 (HF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Imagine cleaning it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 You wouldn't be able to see any dirt on it, would you aprart, form your own face's reflection! 😆 😉 😀 GNR-Gordon-4 (HF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I am doubtful they are originals, the finish in areas seems poor, not up to Margate standard at all. They were given as retirement and special occasion gifts to staff, the finish would have been to a very high standard. The ones I have seen on ebay don't look that well finished, the tender finish is poor in places, one driving wheel has chrome traces on it and two cabside number transfers are out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Not chrome painted but chrome effect plastic plated just like the chrome bumpers, grilles and lights parts found in Airfix car kits of old.If you look at the eBay listing it says Made in England on the bottom of the Scottie.Or is that a question to an answer someone already asked.??? I’ll ask my typing parrot.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81F Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 @ Atom3624, Why Oh Dear? - Lets just say they've just got a bit rarer! I bought one off ebay about a year ago for around £50 I thoiught it was just a custom paint job. However, as the body was damaged (bent boiler stays missing front buffer and the whole boiler was comming away/unstuck, I broke it up for spares after an attempted repaint went wrong! It appeared to have been chrome plated all over - even the glasing and was in a box meant for a green one. The seller described it as appearing to be originally green but resprayed. The finish was quite good apart from the lack of care with the glasing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 It appears you can spray chrome plating but at a price...https://shop.pchrome.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=143 This talks to various other shiny coating options..https://www.pchrome.com/5-ways-can-turn-plastic-chrome/ The tatty finish on the pictures I saw, particularly the tender sides, indicate to me that model was probably a proof of process test model and that there was further technique tweaking required to get a decent finish.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 @Margate-Richmond Don't forget that that the Flying Scotsman is most certainly over 20 years old. Who has owned it? Has it been looked after? These are questions you will never know the answer to, but the poor finish look, could be due to lack of care of the model. Somebody may of scratched the locomotive in some way. It looks like an original to me. I have seen repainted locomotives being sold in real life and on eBay and they don't look even half as good as factory painted locomotives and the finsih to me on the chrome Flying Scotsman that's for sale on eBay does look original to me. GNR-Gordon-4 (HF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM6 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I approach this with an enormous amount of skepticism.The seller describes this as a ‘one-off’ yet when I searched eBay when this thread started (curiosity only, no intention to buy) there were a number of ‘chrome-plated’ locos offered and all at the same ridiculouslay extortionate price.In my opinion this is someone with a rattle can of paint and a get rich quick scheme to scam gullible buyers.And yes, they look awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 In my opinion this is someone with a rattle can of paint and a get rich quick scheme to scam gullible buyers. Do you think I need to give this chrome plated(-ish) one another coat of flash paint and a rub with a duster before I flog it to top up my pension, or will it do as is. I could probably get away with saying the rods were gold plated paint as well and chuck in a tin of Halfords touch up for the tender. /media/tinymce_upload/ae13239cecab3a4a5653e565ea2cf8d9.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 It could do with a lick of paint, some lining, numerals and other details I reckon .... !! Couldn't make out the (Unicorn) horn on the smokebox door!! Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olly Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Is that a factory prototype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Is that a factory prototype? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81F Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 Just to add to the debate the chrome finish on mine was very highly polished much like a car badge without that slightly dull finish that all metalic paints gives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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