The National Collection

[LCDR]

Sitting here at my desk looking out over the Great Hall I was amazed at how much of the National Collection might provide an ideal subject for new models in the future.

 

Starting with my own likes -

 

The Wainwright 'D' of course, how could

 

LC&DR not want that one?!

Furness Railway Copperknob, a classic Bury type 0-4-0,

the E5000 (not at York presently)

and Stephenson's Rocket

 

So who would like to suggest their pick of the National Collection that has not yet appeared in ready

 

to run OO gauge?

[malB]

I'd beg to differ as Rocket has already many moons ago in the good old bad olds of Triang been made. Though a new model wouldn't perhaps go amiss!

[walkingthedog]

LC means a new version of Rocket. The previous model is nearly as old as the real one.

[Graskie]

There is a R346C Stephensons Rocket Train & 3 coach set in new sealed boxed condition for £424.50 Buy it now. Tri-ang first produced the Rocket in 1964. Never appealed to me because it was before even my time.

[Graskie]

Not 1964, of course.

[LCDR]

That is EXACTLY why a new 'Rocket; model is needed. The Germans have 'Der Adler', the Americans have 'Best Friend of Charlton' and ' De Witt Clinton' models from home grown manufacturers.

 

Graskie said:

 

There is a R346C Stephensons

 

Rocket Train & 3 coach set in new sealed boxed condition for £424.50 Buy it now. Tri-ang first produced the Rocket in 1964. Never appealed to me because it was before even my time.

[cooped]

Difficult, all I can think of is I want your desk spot!

[cooped]

Definately like the Wainwright D and the GNR #1463 would look good too.

[LCDR]

Easy one to get. Become a volunteer at the NRM.

 

cooped said:

 

Difficult, all I can think of is I want your desk spot!

[Graskie]

If you want the Rocket, here are my pictures of its replica at the NRM February 2011.

 

http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/graskie68/library/The%20Rocket

[cooped]

LC&DR said:

Easy one to get. Become a volunteer at the NRM.

cooped said:

Difficult, all I can think of is I want your desk spot!

Would love to, but it's a bit far to come.

[LCDR]

That is a pity, it is really good being a volunteer at the museum. You meet a lot of interesting people, all of whom share our interests, and to work surrounded by all those wonderful locomotives and all the other exhibits. The 'public' are fun too, many

 

of them have interesting stories. I wish I had a pound for every one who has told me that their grand-dad drove the Flying Scotsman!!

 

'Mallard' returned from Shildon yesterday behind 'Union of South Africa', but had not entered the museum proper before

 

I went home.

 

.

 

cooped said:

 

Would love to, but it's a bit far to come.

[cooped]

Closest equivalent to me is the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania, with the Strasburg Railroad just over the road, about a 90 minute drive. Plenty of opportunities to volunteer there, but I should probably wait 25 years for retirement so I actually have

 

the time for it! Still, US stuff just doesn't excite me the same way good old Blighty trains do.

[LCDR]

You will of course be getting ' Dwight D Eisenhower' back later this year. She looks magnificent, as does 'Dominion of Canada'.

 

Nice that you like our trains, thank you!

[walkingthedog]

I thought cooped was originally from the UK.

[cooped]

walkingthedog said:

I thought cooped was originally from the UK.

I am! Born and bred Essex boy for my sins!

Truth is LC & DR I made sure of a visit to the NRM when I was back in Blighty August last year to see DDE and

DoC as I knew I was never likely to get to see them over this side of the Atlantic!

[walkingthedog]

You can come back now cooped the police have dropped the charges.

[cooped]

Phew,I can dust the shell suit off then.

[walkingthedog]

Turquoise I hope?

[cooped]

With luminous pink stripes.

 

To get things somewhat back on track, perhaps my shell suit should be part of a national collection now.

[LCDR]

Well if the last InterCity Cheesburger can be an exhibit why not!?

[da4472vid]

I would like to have a new rocket if tri-ang could do it then surley hornby could do it now

 

[LCDR]

Very true, little can motors can fit almost anywhere, so a drive mechanism would be very easy nowadays.  But then what about some of the other early locomotives, like the 'Planet' which is at MOSI, or 'Copperknob'. I suspect the real reason is that there is only a limited call for them amongst main stream model train enthusiasts, who seem to prefer big Pacifics in BR liveries, or modern diesel locomotives.

I would love to have one or more from the following listjust as curiosities

Rocket, San Pareil, Planet, Northumbria, Jenny Lind, Copperknob, Lion (or "Thunderbolt")  

BUT I doubt we will ever see any of them. :-(

[da4472vid]

If hornby did make them I'd put a tenner on them selling like hot cakes

and lion would make a wonerfull model and don't forget locomotion No1 too

[LCDR]

The carriages and wagons to go with them might make interesting models too. All Tri-ang made were the first class 'stagecoach type' carriages, but some of the open thirds (really open, no roof!) would have added variety. If Locomotion was made there ought to be some 'Chaldron' coal wagons to go with it. That wagon type lasted 180 years and were still in use at Seaham Harbour in the 1990s! I'd lay odds that these would outsell the loco! although I doubt that Locomotion would satisfy the North Eastern brigade, too early, sorry PP!