Paul_Sterling Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Hi Chaps,I've briefly browsed the forum to make sure I'm not duplicating a thread. But has anyone heard what is going on with the 'great goodbye' orders, I've pre-ordered 3 of them, and Hattons have cancelled, so rang CMC and they've said they don't know what's going on either.What's going round the mill?Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 They were available from Hornby over the weekend. I got a few emails from them reminding me to give them a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfox4475 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 It seems that Hornby only wanted to sell all six in a special case and any of us that wanted to buy separately some of the loco's, as I did, we got cancelled. Hornby are now only out to make money and don't give a tinkers cuse for it grass routes Modellers. I very sadden by this action. All six for over £1000.00 too much for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_Sterling Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Ok, that worries me, as I was kind of getting the same response from Locomotion when i was there for the "great Goodbye Exhibition" but put it down to the person on the desks stupidity in trying to sell all 6 on the day when they didnt even have them. so has this impacted the retailers, and hence caused Hattons email to me>? Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I'm confused, it was The Great Goodbye, not Goodbye an A4. Of course they wanted to sell them as a set. As for 'Hornby are now only out to make money' what's that supposed to mean, they a business not a charity. Heaven forbid that a company should dare to make money. They have to pay wages, buy materials, pay tax etc. If they don't make money they won't exist. I think you will find the blue box version was even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessio Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 WTD, I agree, but to buy the 6 separately costs more. So, if we assume for arguments' sake that all models will sell however they're sold, surely Hornby will make more selling some of them individually because there's no bulk discount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Thank goodness I'm not interested in the set. I've got my Hornby "Sir Ronald Matthews" with sound as a token gesture to the A4 class. Well, I say that but I also have a Hornby fine detail conversion, originally from TMC (with TMC box) "Mallard", specially lightly weathered and with a "Tees Tyne Pullman" headboard fitted. I think it could be DCC ready but I would need to have a closer look inside. I might well get rid of that one but keep hesitating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_Sterling Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 walkingthedog said: I'm confused, it was The Great Goodbye, not Goodbye an A4. Of course they wanted to sell them as a set. As for 'Hornby are now only out to make money' what's that supposed to mean, they a business not a charity. Heaven forbid that a company should dare to make money. They have to pay wages, buy materials, pay tax etc. If they don't make money they won't exist. I think you will find the blue box version was even more. valid point WTD, but we arent all in a position to spend the kind of money that all 6 cost, I bought SNG from the great gathering, and decided to buy 3 more from the great goodbye set, but could i justify or indeed afford all 6? absolutely not! I agree that Hornby make an incentive to buy all 6 in the offering of the display case, and that is the difference, you should be able to buy separately or as a set, I very much doubt that hornby would sell all of them if it was "six or nothing" but sadly the impression i'm led to belive is that is exactly what Hornby are going to do. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Maybe I'm wrong but I was under the impression that this was a set of six, not six individual locos. As they're special edition I guess they will be more expensive than ordinary A4 models. Do they actually exist as individual locos? There are a lot of people willing to spend a lot on locos. On another thread there's a discussion about a set of seven OO coaches at £345 + vat each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_Sterling Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 walkingthedog said: Maybe I'm wrong but I was under the impression that this was a set of six, not six individual locos. As they're special edition I guess they will be more expensive than ordinary A4 models. Do they actually exist as individual locos? There are a lot of people willing to spend a lot on locos. On another thread there's a discussion about a set of seven OO coaches at £345 + vat each. no WTD, very much six separate locos, in their own boxes, buying all six gets you nothing more than the ticket to buy the case to display them. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Well four of the six are on the auction site. Whether there Gathering or Goodbye doesn't matter as it's only packaging. I expect Hornby sold-out on the weekend sale. They will continue to appear on the auction site over the next few months, and at far higher prices than Hornby were charging . Perhaps Hornby should have staggered the release of these loco's - but then buyers would have started moaning about the delays in completing the set/collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 They are special editions though aren't they complete with etched nameplates, bells and whistles etc. All companies that make things tend to do social editions whether it's watches, cars or toy trains and they charge a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Yes they are special editions - I meant that the loco in the box will be the same, whether its Great Gathering or Goodbye - the outer box will of course be slightly different. I have two A4's, Mallard - it's like Flying Scotsman, you have to have one, and Golden Plover - both Super detail models and very nice, but I don't need any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Do I have to have a Flying Scotsman BB. I've got an A3 Pretty Polly will that do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Wasn't there an A4 called "Parrot," WTD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Had an email from a shop in Sheffield today with the set available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Yes, so did I. I deleted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooped Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 walkingthedog said: Had an email from a shop in Sheffield today with the set available. For £1399!! According to their website Model Railways Direct have 4 available for £1049. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 cooped said: For £1399!! According to their website Model Railways Direct have 4 available for £1049. The price is irrelevant to me as I never buy Limited Editions of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Norwegian Blue perhaps? Graskie said: Wasn't there an A4 called "Parrot," WTD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPA Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I personally think that these sets were not great sellers at the cost. Many have just picked out an odd one or two locos and Hornby have done a regrouping exercise and are selling them as sets direct with stock left. There will be many oddball locos out there as part of the set and it will make the price eventually go through the roof by those who wanted but couldn't afford at the time the full set. The winners here will be the buy to speculate crowd who will take the risk and hope of getting rich from their purchase on ebaygum from the mugs who "must have" It may also be that there was a contract with Picture Pride Displays, who make the cabinets, for a specified number. These cabinets are superb but pricy. If you add that into the cost of production, Hornby will be aware that they need to protect any investment made there. Personally why buy 6 locos that only ever met in the various liveries depicted in a museum in York. To me that is as daft as the Britannia in black, that had about 6 outings in that livery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 These will be purchased by the display only brigade in my view. There's a lot of people out there with money to burn, good luck to them. I would imagine the cabinets are made to order. Doesn't take long to make a cabinet from standard parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Yes, I agree, WTD. Unfortunately those people buying them as an investment could well find they are not. I have gold to burn, but not on that set. Like you, I never buy special editions, apart from one surprisingly cheap in my local model shop some years ago, perhaps because they couldn't sell it! I like to run my locos and none of those A4s are with sound anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I think you might make a few bob if you sold them straight away but as an investment, no chance. Buy a painting instead. If I wanted 6 A4s I'd want them all BR or LNER not a mixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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