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68 now, 69 in November I blame inflation! Thank goodness we are only asked to confirm our age and not to confirm grey hairs or bar codes 🤐

Excellent work RDS I will go through my entries as we have discussed and confirm which items are corrected and which remain outstanding. Hopefully it will help HRMS and members if the completed tasks are in a separate list to the still outstanding ones. Thanks again for all the time you have spent on this list.

@Fishmanoz I am aware of the error, Ray contacted me off the forum as he didn't want to add a reply without contacting me first, he is a gentleman. I placed the reply prior to dashing out, to see to an ill 84 year old lady who is let me just say not her self. I hadn't time to come back and correct the statement though I realised the error after Ray pointed it out. I asked him to reply and correct the issue for me before the wolves zoomed in. The forum is going to the dogs, many are upset about various issues, it is the same people every time. Replies to one thread included three, yes three moderators, at that time there was more of them than other members replying!

Hi PJ, .I'm afraid you can't add droppers to these small track pieces. They must remian dead while the TT rotates, so that when a bridge rail contacts the wrong rail of one of these track pieces via the under-rail brass contact, you don't get a short circuit. Ray Thanks for contacting me off forum Ray, and also for adding the reply above, I couldn't get to do so. Caring for older relatives is so important.

@Fishmanoz I have read carefully how you see the details Ray has put, please allow me to say how I see it, I am not saying which is right or wrong as there are a number of ways to get round the issue. Firstly the bridge, as Ray stated the wires are re-directed direct to the DCC Bus, therefore we can be sure of power to the bridge, with the exception of the small time between polarity difference as it turns. The inlet track, this is from the main layout and has DCC feed to it, providing power right up to the IRJ's, just before the small track inlet rail. The outlet track, here I refer to the lanes outward from the IRJ's, these are live all the time, as is the main layout, if each is connected direct to the DCC Bus, ensuring the correct polarity to match that of the turn table position subject to its position and manufacture. This just leaves therefore the small sections of track from the TT to the IRJ's inlet and outlet. The sections will be live when the TT is in line with the inlet outlet sections as the track comes into contact with the brass contacts on the end of the TT, but are dead when not in line. I ask myself is this an issue? I cannot see it being an issue, I would not want to run another loco up to the TT when the TT is in use, therefore I would stop an incoming loco before the IRJ's at the small lead in section of track. I would also only move the TT when the loco is fully inside the bridge section. Therefore for the small sections of inlet/outlet to be track as the TT rotates, between the track inlet/outlets is not an issue. Could there be a power issue to the small lengths of track between the TT and the inlet track, or outward lanes, between the bridge and the IRJ's, possibly one may say with use, but this can easily be got round by adding droppers to these small track pieces, a belt and braces approach I think, naturally ensuring the polarity matches with the TT.

Excellent Ray, thank you. @Silver_Shiney You can see the brass contacts on the edge of the bridge, where the bridge joins with the input track,or output lanes on the following images above. 1 - The first image in the first post 2 - The second image in Ray's (The Inlet track pieces) The track is laid on top of them. My choice is to have IRJ's on ALL lanes used, in and out. Except for the momentary loss of power when the TT passes the polarity change at all other times the tracks will remain live. Bridge powered by DCC droppers, ALL lanes powered with DCC droppers. (care with polarity to the out lanes where polarity changes at the bridge) For me I want to keep sound and lights working as much as possible, I may have a loco in an engine shed or other lane where I want the engines to start from cold, etc. @St1ngr4y I understand you are going to add another thread in the RM forum, for setting up the TT to work in RM, excellent idea, when you do can you add a link from this to the new thread in the RM forum and visa versa. Thank you.

Thank you for your patience. Ray has requested more images from me so as to be clear regarding the information which is added here as guidance, especially regarding what is to be removed and changed. I will add these images as soon as possible.

Hi Ullswater Thanks for your comments, I have a lot to do with the layout yet! Backscenes are from New Modellers Shop, they have a large selection to choose from, excellent scenes, on good quality printed paper. I was very pleased with the service and delivery. http://www.newmodellersshop.co.uk/backscenes.htm

Although there have already been a number of posts for the Hornby Turn-Table R070, this one has been started as a new thread for the following reasons. 1 - It includes images of the top side and underside of the turn-table so it is clearer to see what is being discussed. 2 - There have been lots of talk of what is best to convert the R070 turn table to DCC, using words like butchery etc. As mentioned on a previous thread, I have tread many of the previous threads ideas and for me, the one that seems the best is the method Ray has used. So having discussed this with Ray, I add the images at the start of the thread, so they are easy to reference by all at a later time, Ray will then follow with his idea and the way he has converted his turn-table on his layout. It would be most helpful, to all members, now and in the future, if we let Ray add his post here before before further discussions and ideas are added. Plan view of Turn-Table R070 /media/tinymce_upload/5e14bdcf6827e6b623e1bfe6fcb2363e.jpg Underside of the turn-table /media/tinymce_upload/4e0ca862c50732585a0ad0cf2150b05f.jpg Close up of the centre of the turn table - view to underside /media/tinymce_upload/553f063409d5b8cb7513be8bb4d774b4.jpg Underside showing wires that lead from centre of turn-tabe to the edge of it. /media/tinymce_upload/7c975499a192de85e2aca9c27929763a.jpg We look forward to Ray's details of how he converted the turn-table on his layout for DCC and how he configured it in RM. Hopefully to information will be helpful to other members in the future.

For any one who may be interested I have uploaded another 6 images to my model Railway diary. As there are now over 100 images, please note there are now 2 pages, new images are on page 2 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/album/3882-bottom-le-dale-railway-building-from-scratch/ There is also a link in my footer message below. I hope you like what you see but... there is a massive amount still to do. Work remains in progress 😉

Hornby R070 Turn table and Hornby decoder

On a good note... it is the start of December on Thursday. We are promised a substancial update for RM hopefully before Christmas!

Loco Detection.... When? That is the question. As we know Hornby have recommended we use Train-Tech signals. HRMS work to make RM compatible with 3rd party items, which includes Train-Tech signals. So which will take priority with the new Train-Tech sensor Signals? LD's compatibility with RM or Train-Tech sensor signals and indicators?

Unfortunately I didn't get to complete the survey in time and it is not ended. Pity really I would have like to have done so.

It sure does John. But I cannot help but think they had planned to do so from the beginning, they just needed to build up sufficient catagories of sound cards to be able to do so.

Plus £4 postage £37 each if you purchase 4. 😉

Will thank be musical choralc or the sound of guns. 😉 Thanks for the info.

Notes to Pete007 suggestions... Another row of sound buttons would not be needed if the buttons were smaller, seeing more sound buttons is a good idea, often 6 is insufficient. HRMS could provide smaller icons as say 2 rows of 5 with an option in the ini file to have one or two rows as the user thinks is best for them. I still feel, after all these years using RM that the loco boxes are too big, if they were smaller we could see more of our locos without having to scroll down to find the ones we want. The acceleration and deceleration being probably the most important, these themselves could pop up larger. (With the loco ID/name/image above the pop up accelerator) Emergency Stop button this is a large button for obvious reasons but possibly there could be 2 buttons in this location, the smaller one 1/3 of the one now as a controlled stop of everything, the larger 2/3 of the one now as the emergency stop button. Possibly best different style of button but both including red or some red in the buttons.

Hi RDS Keep up the good work ... at least you are not pressured for time. LOL

Thanks RDS for the latest table of Guesses, a small list I think if we take off past hopeful dates. My guess at this time is... it is probably better to wait to see what the 'Hornby products for 2017' says before I suggest another date. That should narrow down whether 2017 is a possiblity or not. 🤔

@Ullswater LD will come... in time... the reply above is in line with replies we have heard for a long long time. Hornby has it's own financial issues tat is public knowledge, hence the brakes were applied. What is in Hornby's favour is the market is uncertain, imports are another headache for them at present as their products come mainly from China and are purchased in accordance with the value of the US $, which has dropped 20% over recent months. This naturally has affected all other model train companies so understandably they too are also cautious as they also import the majority of their products, hence the reason there is no direct competition for another LD system. What I think we can be sure of is... when LD does come it will cost more than was origainally stated! Some will see this as to expensive a system to install, some already have, others maybe cautious, but in the end that leaves Hornby with a system that may not be as popular as they had hoped a few years ago. Although frustrating for some, it is understandable, I think, Hornby are holding back, timing of launching LD has to be when Hornby can take the risk and see it as a profit making system, and when the market is stable. That I think leaves us with a simple question, will we ever see Loco Detection? I think personally we will but if it has to wait for stability of the company and the country it could be a long time yet. To conclude on a good note ;o) In the UK and some other northern hemesphere countries, we will get an extra hour in bed this weekend. Don't lose sleep thinking about LD. ;o)

Lot to do yet bigskybirds but at last it is starting to take shape. Thanks for your comments, I think the galllery facility is great for sharing what we have done, I love viewing other peoples layouts, locos and ideas.

The direct link is in the signature at the bottom of the message above, alternatively cut n paste the URL link and add to your browser. Anyone can create a diary of images to share your layout, ideas or just your loco's and it is Free at www.rmweb.co.uk Forum

Should anyone be interested, I have just uploaded another 5 images to my Layout Diary, they are on page 2 of the link below, there are now 118 images. Latest images include a second station, different lighting (not yet connected), signage, fencing, shunt signal and more. Layout Diary - Bottom-le-Dale http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/member/21331-model-trains/ Thank you for your interest

Well done Zander48, your layout is looking good.