Hi both, thanks for the replies blush Title trap ? ... thats a new one to me stuck_out_tongue I was attempting an introduction too, but did not see a section for that so I thought I would cover both bases. But yes, I had seen the app thingie, and I am a strange mix of technology lover and luddite ! The upshot of which, is I don't like the app idea for control, I want a nice physical control box. I noticed that the TT locos will have a "Next 18" chip fitting, but atm no sound chip for those , presumably that will be on the horizon ? for now I will just use a non sound chip. In order to get myself underway, I decided to start with the (hopefully imminent) analogue set, but plan to buy the next locos pre chipped when available, as it appears to be cheaper ? I had seen the "select" controllers SH on the auction site, but having to send to Hornby for a firmware update puts me off. The "elite" looks good, but pricey. I half expected GM would have something suitable for entry level, but it seems not.