The son of Triangman Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 It isn't dead in peoples collections and on theirlayouts, but it is a dead product in the range and catalouge as it's no longer produced. So it is dead for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I seen a video on youtube of how to DCC a live steam engine, but although it worked it destroyed the live steam. The whole point of live steam is that you drive it not automate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 gowest said:This forum page looks like its just an extension to the live steam club with come and see an engine on our rolling road??There must be more people out there with more interesting layout and thoughts on this great product how they run there loco's hints and tip on caring, servicing track and so on It would be great and get more people invoved in there own thoughts and ideas.oolivesteam club has been an invaluable resource for me as I get to grips with LS.As for interesting layouts, I hope you like mine: https://vimeo.com/48966009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgmichel Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 brando said:I seen a video on youtube of how to DCC a live steam engine, but although it worked it destroyed the live steam. The whole point of live steam is that you drive it not automate it.I am sure we saw the same video. The author had hooked up a DCC controller to move the live steam valve, and I think to turn the heaters on and off. I think you still drive it as before, but with a bit finer control over the valve. I contacted the author, but I was not able to obtain the schematics. However, I think the principle is fairly easy to copy, although you would need some understanding of the electronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgmichel Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Live steam is not dead while ever there are enthusiasts who are still using it, and parts available to fix them. Certainly, the price of these locos is so high, that I am sure it is not dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I wonder if 'live steam' did not get so many people taking it up because of the limited selection of locomptives. I am not at all interested in LNER Pacifics but might have dabbled in it if there was a Southern outline locomotive. I am sure there are followers of Great Western and London Midland who think similarly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I expect sales of what is usually Hornby's best seller, Flying Scotsman, in the normal range did not meet expectations in live steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lory Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I just with I could slow mine down a litte. I run it in the garden becouse of the smell. But I do enjoy it so and I think I have the only one in San Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avanti78 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hello RG,I live in The Republic of Texas.I have had a L. S. Mallard since 2005. Dragged it out of storage recently and found that it leaked under the cab; wrote Hornby about it, only to get the instructions in the manual. Had spent the previous three years trying to find factory repair facilities in the US. Never found any for Rivarossi or Hornby. Eventually, took it apart, did a voodoo dance with secret incantations---nothing. Finally gave the first steam release--'pop-off' valve a sharp rap on top with my 3 lb sledge. That stopped the leak, but then found I could not get the drivers to turn. AFter 'dabbing' endlessly, the safety circuit would shut off the electicals, and I'd have to start dabbing again, to see if I could find the green light. Went through several cycles of this, and then gave up. Finally convinced Hornby that I was serious about returning it to them for repair. Did so for $16.00 .Got it back in jig time. They say it works, and I trust that it does.HORNBY DID A COMMENDABLE JOB. STOOD BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT. I'M PLEASED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Avanti78 said:Did so for $16.00 .Got it back in jig time. They say it works, and I trust that it does.HORNBY DID A COMMENDABLE JOB. STOOD BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT. I'M PLEASED.John at Hornby does an exceptional job at repairing Live Steamers. My Ebay sourced Mallard and Silver Link were both dead on arrival from their respective sellers. But he brought them back to full working order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 It is the superb service Hornby provides to owners of Live Steam locos that has kept me loyal to the brand when buying other items.If this is how Hornby looks after a line of products which have been discontinued, the service on existing products must be fantastic.Now if we can only get them to reconsider Live Steam................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgmichel Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Brightstar said:The inventor has designed a new controller add-on which give almost instantaneous ccntrol of the locomotive and reduces the time lags and response times. The prototype was offered to H----y but they turned it down. The Club is now developing the idea and it will be available to club members, when it has been fully tested. We are also working on a new combined transformer & controller which will incorporate the new add-on hand held controller.So, is this live steam controller still in the works at the OOlivesteam club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Seagull Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 evening all...looking at the prices being asked online for new and used sets, there does still seem to be a market for live steam loco's. we all probably would prefer not to have to buy a set, or a train pack, but after seeing some A4s in action at Warley, I would buy one. and judging by this thread, others would too............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaz Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Crazy prices being paid on ebay for Live steam locos....once you have seen one in action, you are "hooked".. There is a market but a very specialist one. I have 3 live Steam locos all in perfect working order....they are beautiful to look at and wonderful to watch....if Hornby could bring this product line back to life and enable it to work on the new digital system, I think it would take off...model steam trains should be seen and "smelled"...something currently only Live Steam can give.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Seagull Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 hi flaz.......now we may be getting somehwere.....wanted:- new live steam loco, not a set, DCC ready, and DCC fitted, popular loco types, with a selection of loco names and numbers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Doubt very much we will see live steam from Hornby for a while. It's a dead technology for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainlover23 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 The son of Triangman said:Doubt very much we will see live steam from Hornby for a while. It's a dead technology for now.We will never see live steam again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Seagull Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 hi SOT and TL23 how can you be so sure that LS is dead....?are we bothered about dead technolgy, if it works..? never say never surely....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 OO Scale mass market Live steam is dead for now, Hornby now longer make it for the mainstream market.Note I quote it is dead for now.If it remains dead, as time goes on it will get harder and harder to repair.It had failings mainly the voltage incompatibility with existing DC and a lack of DCC control wasn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 For now mass market OO live steam is dead and obsolete technology. Perhaps in time Hornby will revisit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I wouldn't want DCC control of a Live steam loco. Wheres the fun in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_West Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 [reply]doublecee said:As you say Dcc would make it more controlable to a point but i'm a great one for keep it simple even if some have trouble stopping at stations but thats the fun even on a full size engine stopping in the right place is hard The under ground in London will run with out drivers is that what we want? In WW2 in the blackout a steam train driver got it wrong and stopped in the wrong place at Romford station a soldier left the carrage in the dark he thought he was on the platform he was not, one step back away from the train and he landed in the main road some 60ft below he had been standing on the road bridge wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_G Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 hithe only reasons i never took up LS was due to the locos offeredwith these large engines you need a large track area or it will look stupid just lugging 2 or 3 coaches round in a circle,, now if they had made a small tank engine,or even something like a Fairburn then i would have been straight in there , could have made a shunting layout and that would have been of more interest, and probably to a greater customer base as well, it would also need the capebility to run more than one loco on the same track sectioni think if they had taken this approch it would have been a winner, even better if they took it up 1 gauge to O thats my veiw anywayso i dream onrgdsMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaz Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 What will keep LS alive is those people who keep using their sets and get the enjoyment out of doing something that a "regular" set can't. I've just joined the LIve steam club, some very interesting articles on their website also for those interested. My 9 yr old son, loves watching the LS in action and looking at some of the videos on Utube.....so maybe the "next generation" will revisit getting a version of LS off the ground...?What is for sure Children are fascinated about steam trains when they see them in action....Children aged 9 or 90+....plus the playstation and X Box can't replicate the smell of Live steam in action.....All the best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The majority do not understand what live steam is. It has nothing to do with DCC, it is driving a real steam engine in minature in your house,not an automatic train running round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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