old git1707822627 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 just returned to model making any help would be welcome after priming then applying acrylic colour and sealing with gloss varnish, i have been trying to apply an winsor & newton oil wash to the panel lines i then leave over night to dry but when i try to wipe off the excess in the morning with kitchen roll it pulls it out of the panel lines any tips to overcome this Many ThanksRon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Allowing oil paint to dry before trying to remove it doesn't sound right. I don't enhance panel lines myself as I think it makes them look cartoonish - you don't see real aircraft with heavy black lines around the panels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RougeTrooper Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Personally I would remove the excess straight after applying the wash with a brush or cotton bud that's dampened with winsor and newton white spirit, then leave to dry ( that time can depend on the temperature of the room ) I usually leave it a couple of days at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth ONeill Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Well, IMO you're trying to highlight panel lines on aircraft. wink Seriously, I'm used to getting close enough to aircraft to reach out and touch them, and they do not have black lines round most of the access panels, never mind skin panel lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Though I have only done one experiment with it, Tamiya Panel Line Accent seems to work quite well. It come in 3 colours: black, brown and grey. There are some online videos that show how to use it.I have also used Citadel Paints Washes Badab Black. It works nicely, too.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebeep Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Though I have only done one experiment with it, Tamiya Panel Line Accent seems to work quite well. It come in 3 colours: black, brown and grey. Tamiya Panel Line Accents are excellent, I use them a lot. If you're using oil washes they need to be really thin. Here's a couple of vids you might find helpful: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john potts Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 try flory wash easy stuff to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Huff Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Though I have only done one experiment with it, Tamiya Panel Line Accent seems to work quite well. It come in 3 colours: black, brown and grey.Tamiya Panel Line Accents are excellent, I use them a lot.If you're using oil washes they need to be really thin. Here's a couple of vids you might find helpful: I second this, oil-paints need to be thinned nearly to the viscosity of water. It sounds as if the OP was using it way too thick, which might cause it simply to lift out of the panel line without adhering to it as he experienced. Personally I don't think one needs to get specialist washes, regular oil-paints will do the job just fine of correctly thinned. Prior practice on unused parts or old assembled kits will help, it's not easy to gauge it correctly first attempt, although once you've the knack of it, it's not hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebeep Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Personally I don't think one needs to get specialist washes, regular oil-paints will do the job just fine of correctly thinned. Agreed, but if you're a lazy boy like me the Tamiya Panel Line Accents are the perfect solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RougeTrooper Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 try flory wash easy stuff to use Totally have to agree. I have some and gives great results, after trying to use acrylic panel line wash as a novice and failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 I couldn't get on with the Flory washes - they didn't work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-353643 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Try putting the Winsor and Newton (or any other make) oil paint on absorbent material for a while and allow the linseed (carrier) oil to 'leak out' before adding the thinner to make the wash. Linseed oil increases the time to dry out so artists have time to rework it on a canvas (and affects the sheen/matt too) however this is probably not helpful for model painting. You need the wash to run into crevices and details, making use of surface tension effects.Then you can take a clean brush with some thinner added, take out the excess with absorbent material, so it is just damp with thinner then 'pull' the excess wash back off into the clean brush, where you don't want the wash on the model.Just a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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