rayarpino Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 The more senior among us will remember the J72 "Joem" produced well before this forum existed by a long defunct manufacturer. I believe it was the only RTR engine in NER livery every to be produced. So please, please could Hornby consider the production of a NER-liveried engine. There could be LNER and BR versions of it anyway. So what about an Atlantic, which would be a first for any company anyway, like Raven's Z class (clean, simple elegant lines and no intricate valve gear) or the same chief engineer's A2, one of Britain's first pacifics. Or one of the heavy goods engines. Thank you in anticipation, Hornby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I had the J72. After only having Tri-ang and Tri-ang Hornby models before, it was a revelation. I was amazed, It actually had wire hand rails and brake shoes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Prat Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Hi Rayarpino At last, another person calling for some NER locos. No longer am I a little lone voice in the wilderness. I'm not too bothered about the Atlantic, although it would be nice, or the Raven Pacific. However I'd be near the head of the queue for a Q6(forgive the pun) whilst I'd also like a J21, which I'd prefer to the J27, Also would it be greedy if I ask for an A8, B16, G5 and a D20, (the D20 really would look nice in NER livery)??? They would certainly stamp the NER identity on any layout. The blue box company are currently having a good go at the Great Central - maybe the NER will be next. However, I wouldn't want to upset the GWR fans, after all there are something like three of their types which haven't been made so they're feeling 'hard done by'!!! I think all we can do is dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 It is a source of wonder to me too that the NER which is the fourth largest of the pre-grouping companies (after the LNWR, GWR and Midland) is so badly represented in model form. The LNWR is perhaps the most neglected, with only one locomotive, the GWR and Midland do somewhat better, but the NER has only had the J72 and that is often sold as a BR built version. (Joem is a preservation era model). There has been of course a tendency in the past to manufacture post-Grouping types and BR Standards, but the tide is turning, so more variety is possible. Have you completed the new model request questionnaire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malB Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Whilst I too would love some North Eastern locomotives and stock, how about some more from North of the Border. As apart from the Caledonian Single 123 and Pug there are on locos from the North British or Highland Railways to mention but two. So how about an NBR Atlantic or Highland Jones Goods 103? Of course there's also the Glasgow & South Western and Great North of Scotland Railways in the North East [round Aberdeen] and South West [round Ayr & Stranrear]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malB Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 PS should have said no not on locos from...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayarpino Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 Yes LC&DR I have completed the form. Must add that at this point I'd actually be happy with any NER engine (including an electric though some are available in kit form). Then another question looms of course. Would Hornby also grace us with some NER coaches, mainline and suburban, which could also be made available in post grouping liveries.... But to paraphrase a certain Home Guard captain, I may be "entering the realms of fantasy here...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Well Rayarpino you can do no more than hope, and rest assured you have a friend in Postman Prat too. I model the LC&DR (as you might guess from my sign on) and rtr models for that are like rocking horse manure. I therefore base my time frame in the mid 20th Century, so I can find post Grouping and post Nationalisation types instead. Now a nice Kirtley 'Bobtail' or M3 would do me fine, but I guess I would wait until the sun freezes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Neigh lad. Rocking horse manure isn't as rare as LC&DR R2R locos. http://thebigrockinghorse.com.au/?p=1305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da4472vid Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 rayarpino said: The more senior among us will remember the J72 "Joem" produced well before this forum existed by a long defunct manufacturer. I believe it was the only RTR engine in NER livery every to be produced. So please, please could Hornby consider the production of a NER-liveried engine. There could be LNER and BR versions of it anyway. So what about an Atlantic, which would be a first for any company anyway, like Raven's Z class (clean, simple elegant lines and no intricate valve gear) or the same chief engineer's A2, one of Britain's first pacifics. Or one of the heavy goods engines. Thank you in anticipation, Hornby. 100% agree more Pre grouping Locos and Stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 poliss said: Neigh lad. Rocking horse manure isn't as rare as LC&DR R2R locos. http://thebigrockinghorse.com.au/?p=1305 Only in OZ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayarpino Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 Well me bonny lads and lasses, here we are.... Got an answer from the hallowed company headquarters in Margate: They are NOT planning NER liveries for 2013. Haven't asked the opposition yet, but then, neither of the rivals would disclose that sort of thing now, would they. So asking is a bit pointless. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I bet you got the standard "We are not currently planning ... but thank you for your interest" reply. They are not going to give away their plans ARE they! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Too many proposed new NER products would make me rtr! (away from them!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Prat Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Just because you've no taste!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 The North Eastern has a lot going for it. A virtual monopoly of Northumberland, Durham, and North Riding of Yorkshire, three massive counties. Tentacles embracing deep into the West Riding, Cumberland and Westmoreland, and over the border into Scotland. Embraced the first railways ever to be built, and a share of the fastest route from London to Scotland. The locomotives were right hand drive and many had steam operated reversers, they pioneered the use of hopper wagons for coal. The best heritage railway in the world is located in North Eastern territory, on the route of the old 1836 Whitby and Pickering Railway. I rather like the Q6, shame none ever found their way south of the Thames, I am sure Faversham men would have loved a few for Kent Coast coal trains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayarpino Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Thank you for reminder LC&DR. This really puts things into perspective. And let us not forget the 1904 Tyneside electric.The NER was a pioneer in this field. So what about a NER n°1 in RTR? Still on the subject of model engines, and moving from the NER to the LNER (which is my other favourite company, surprize, surprize), we have been extremely well served, but essentially with mainline engines. I feel we have now had enough variations on the A1/A3/A4 themes, a real glut of them. It may make sense commercially as these are reliveries requiring no retooling, but the scene is getting boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 How I agree. I have been 'banging on' about the lack of common or garden loco types compared to the glamour pusseys. The commonest locomotive type when BR was formed was undoubtedly the 0-6-0 tender engine, far outweighing in sheer numbers any other type. Look at the Hornby catalogue and you will struggle to find any of the older types, the ones I refer to as 'long funnel'.Some examples, - J15, J21, Cauliflower, 828 and 700, and the Dean Goods is currently AWOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayarpino Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Wouln't a Fletcher "398" be nice. And although they were first built in 1874 or thereabouts, they survived in rather large numbers into LNER days, the last being withdrawn in 1928. A (comparatively) small engine with a nice open cab to reveal all the details, a great original livery on those elegant lines. And what a boon for modellers of Victorian railways and all those who model the LNER. Branch lines aren't the preserve of the GWR. LC&DR, you have all my support from across the Channel. Keep a haad! Howay the lads! With fond memories of the North East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brclass125 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Hornby could possibly have a go at the G5 0-4-4T. They have done a very nice job of the SR M7 0-4-4T which is very similar in shape to the G5. There is a team of railway enthusiasts who are building a new G5 in the north east of UK, so could help to fund their work and produce a preserved edition. Released in conjunction. That would be exciting. I would certainly buy a couple. Mark in OZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 brclass125 said: Hornby could possibly have a go at the G5 0-4-4T. They have done a very nice job of the SR M7 0-4-4T which is very similar in shape to the G5. There is a team of railway enthusiasts who are building a new G5 in the north east of UK, so could help to fund their work and produce a preserved edition. Released in conjunction. That would be exciting. I would certainly buy a couple. Mark in OZ The G5 has been suggested before, and a very good suggestion too, but I suspect that the fact it is similar in shape to the M7 might actually go against it. The people who make these kind of decisions seem to look at different criteria to us. You might be more successful canvassing a type that was distinctive in shape (an A8 4-6-2T perhaps, or one of the very pretty Wordsell 0-6-0s). I have been hoping for a SE&CR 'H' for many years, but I have now completely abandoned any hope since the M7 appeared. Now if it was another version of an LNER or LMSR Pacific, that would be different!!! Sorry to be so cynical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 One small hope, a certain West Country retailer has successfully promoted models of small local locomotive types, (and other retailers have done the same including a proposal for a Beyer Garratt!!) although not from Hornby. If there was sufficient demand from a North East retailer there might be some opportunity to do something similar. Support your local model shop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holdfast Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 [reply]Postman Prat said: Hi Rayarpino At last, another person calling for some NER locos. No longer am I a little lone voice in the wilderness. I'm not too bothered about the Atlantic, although it would be nice, or the Raven Pacific. However I'd be near the head of the queue for a Q6(forgive the pun) whilst I'd also like a J21, which I'd prefer to the J27, Also would it be greedy if I ask for an A8, B16, G5 and a D20, (the D20 really would look nice in NER livery)??? They would certainly stamp the NER identity on any layout. The blue box company are currently having a good go at the Great Central - maybe the NER will be next. However, I wouldn't want to upset the GWR fans, after all there are something like three of their types which haven't been made so they're feeling 'hard done by'!!! I think all we can do is dream. [Yes,Yes,Yes the Q6, and you are not the only one to have posted a request, I have seen post's in the past asking for the Q6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 However, I wouldn't want to upset the GWR fans, after all there are something like three of their types which haven't been made so they're feeling 'hard done by'!!! Now Now - that isn't kind, you know how sensitive these people can be ever since 1892 when they cut them down to size! By the same token there are a few others among the the great ignored. L&NWR, NBR, GER, GNR, L&YR, Metropolitan etc. etc. so you Geordie lads are in good company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malB Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The Great Northern has or at least had a couple of machines produced at opposite ends of the scale in the form of the [LNER classification] J52 Ivatt saddle tanks of which the late Captain Bill Smith purchased 1247 part of the NRM since 1980 and Gresley A1 1470 Great Northern in original form which is also represented at the NRM by the first production machine [in A3 form] by 1472 better known these days as 4472 Flying Scotsman. whilst the J52 has appeared in all 3 liveries GNR, LNER and BR the A1 has only appeared in L.&.N.E.R. colours, so how about 1471 Sir Frederick Banbury the second prototype in Great Northerns colours....... Not forgetting the Modified Great Eastern B12 in LNER & BR colours, with 8572 at Sheringham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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