TheGreenGuit Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I want to order a couple of items total value about £40. Has anyone experience with Modellbahnshop-lippe regarding additional charges e.g. VAT and how this is paid? I understand there should be no import duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulsanne88 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Hi i I have ordered more than is decent from Lippe. I have always found them prompt in their dispatch and of course their prices are quite keen Just make sure that your order value is not too high for you will incur the wrath of the customs boys Nigel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Likewise, excellent service and they are straight down the line with tax etc, it all depends on the order value. Very professional 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMR248 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Yes, I agree, they're very good. If you don't want to be stung for tax don't exceed £135 including postage. Check the govt website but I'm pretty sure that is the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_watts1 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I've used them and can confirm they are a great company and has already been mentioned keep the total below £135. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy tt Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 they are very good to order from. the VAT on all orders are minus we don't have to pay VAT in germany as we are not part of the eu we should pay uk VAT on each order but to who and how. all orders are less uk vat as well so we pay £20 per £100 less a hornby tanker is £19 compared to£ 23 the £135 i think is not with delivery included but i keep all my orders below £135 with delivery just in case but if some one can tell my different i would be grateful 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Tall Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I concur, watch your total to avoid UK customs. I have had several purchases from them, no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod-360333 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 8 hours ago, happy tt said: we should pay uk VAT on each order but to who and how. all orders are less uk vat as well so we pay £20 per £100 less a hornby tanker is £19 compared to£ 23 the £135 i think is not with delivery included but i keep all my orders below £135 with delivery just in case but if some one can tell my different i would be grateful 😉 I think that you pay £16.66 less per £100 giving £83.34. If you add 20% VAT to £83.34 you get £100. (It may be 1p out depending on how rounding to the nearest penny is handled). I mention this so the best decision is made on buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HST Mainline Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 20 hours ago, SMR248 said: if you don't want to be stung for tax don't exceed £135 including postage. Are you sure that you pay tax on model railway items (HS code 9503003000)? Here in Denmark you do not pay tax on model railway items, only VAT, when ordering from the UK. Edited March 12 by HST Mainline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox 17 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Yes, I did on some Shapeways items until I found out so keep my value below the threshold £135 mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ateshci Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Quote from gov.co.uk: >> Customs Duty You’ll be charged Customs Duty on all goods sent from outside the UK (or the UK and the EU if you’re in Northern Ireland) if they’re either: excise goods worth more than £135 << This should put an end to the discussion. Edited March 12 by ateshci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HST Mainline Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Quote The rate depends on the type of goods and where they came from - use the Trade Tariff service to check duty rates The above statement is from the same page, so let's check the duty rate (here's the link: https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/commodities/9503003000?country=DE#) My point is: I interpret this as the import duty rate is 0%. You pay VAT regardless of the value of the product. There is a chance that you do not pay anything else than shipping and UK VAT on model trains and accessories ordered from the EU (Modellbahnshop-Lippe), if the parcel is declared correctly. Here in Denmark I only pay Danish VAT when ordering from Hornby. They even have free shipping over £100, which is totally nice. 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman On The Rails Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 If VAT is charged and the item comes through Royal Mail there is an £8 charge on top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy tt Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I said i don't know about the vat i wish i did . all i do is keep my order below £100+post £10.67+vat just in case . I wish i could go back to the good old days 'when you could order £300 +post of just 4 euros. I would order 3 or 4 times a year but that was so long ago 😂. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HST Mainline Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 14 hours ago, Postman On The Rails said: If VAT is charged and the item comes through Royal Mail there is an £8 charge on top Aren't those £8 for checking the parcel and that the VAT is correct? I am pretty sure the webshop (if they want) can register with the UK customs and do the VAT handling for the customer, so you save the "penalty" at the border. The Hornby web shop does this the other way around. When you order from Hornby, they handle the VAT and flag the parcel in the customs system. That way the parcel flies through customs without any additional charges. You only pay what you pay Hornby. I expect there is a way to do the same thing the other way around, but it depends on the webshop. When shopping online in the UK, I only shop at stores that are members of IOSS (Import One Stop Shop EU). AFAIK Hattons used to do the same thing, but they are not here anymore. Sadly. For UK webshops it is definitely worth considering as it will keep them interesting to customers inside the EU. It is a bit more work, but most can be automated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman On The Rails Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 11 hours ago, happy tt said: I said i don't know about the vat i wish i did . all i do is keep my order below £100+post £10.67+vat just in case . I wish i could go back to the good old days 'when you could order £300 +post of just 4 euros. I would order 3 or 4 times a year but that was so long ago 😂. Someone’s ruined all that 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman On The Rails Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 hours ago, HST Mainline said: Aren't those £8 for checking the parcel and that the VAT is correct? I am pretty sure the webshop (if they want) can register with the UK customs and do the VAT handling for the customer, so you save the "penalty" at the border. The Hornby web shop does this the other way around. When you order from Hornby, they handle the VAT and flag the parcel in the customs system. That way the parcel flies through customs without any additional charges. You only pay what you pay Hornby. I expect there is a way to do the same thing the other way around, but it depends on the webshop. When shopping online in the UK, I only shop at stores that are members of IOSS (Import One Stop Shop EU). AFAIK Hattons used to do the same thing, but they are not here anymore. Sadly. For UK webshops it is definitely worth considering as it will keep them interesting to customers inside the EU. It is a bit more work, but most can be automated. Nope the £8 is a standard handling fee for Customs Items where a charge is levied and even more if parcel force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMR248 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 As I understand it, if it's less than £135, then the VAT should be paid in Germany and, if more, it should be paid in the UK. Duty is something different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman On The Rails Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I ordered just under £135 of goods yesterday will see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman On The Rails Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Already had confirmation of Fedex tracking but they haven’t picked it up yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy tt Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 hi keep us posted none of mine has been open the msl tape is ok since twenty twenty there is no invoice in the box anyway . how do they do it anyway , my deliveries end up in stanstead for some reason that's an airport less then three days from germany . but a week in uk 😊lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman On The Rails Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 29 minutes ago, happy tt said: hi keep us posted none of mine has been open the msl tape is ok since twenty twenty there is no invoice in the box anyway . how do they do it anyway , my deliveries end up in stanstead for some reason that's an airport less then three days from germany . but a week in uk 😊lol Standsted is their main UK hub and then it moves to Bishop Stortford into their network well it used many years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman On The Rails Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Due for delivery on Wednesday before 10pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy tt Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 or i see, hope its ok i would love to buy some nice locos from them but got to keep it below £135 or get hit with the duty on it. i don't know if it's the full amount or 10%-20% of the amount more 40% its the vat +the duty .vat i am ok with but the duty , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman On The Rails Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 ATM I have purchased people but there are a couple of good locos too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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