81F Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I am thinking of converting a slightly battered Blue/grey Triang Mk1 BSK with damaged grey paintwork into one of British Rails research vehicles by respraying the grey red. Can anyone recommend a good match for the red available in aerosol. http://www.traintesting.com/images/test%20car2.jpg . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 This sounds like a good project to me. I think you shoukd go for it. GNR-Gordon-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 On my screen, that stripe appears more like a dark orange.I suspect the real-life colour is somewhat different, but the visual appearance 'on the air' will depend on the camera, the ambient/artificial light 'colour', the individual's set-up and - of course - their eyesight!Regarding a colour-match - not a clue, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog RJ Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Looks more of an orange colour to me too. There are one or two other photos here http://www.traintesting.com/test_car_2.htm which also look quite orange but the descriptions do call it red. Reminds me of the paint for my old MK3 Ford Cortina which was definitely red but the paint was called sunset orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 My understanding is that Derby Research livery was Rail Blue. as used on locomotives and passenger carriages on the lower portions , and Rail Red above which was the shade used in the bodywork of many air braked freight wagons. Also the lower stripe below the class 58 footplate was painted Rail Red. When the Corporate Image was developed in 1964/5 three house colours were defined - Rail Red, Rail Grey and Rail Blue. Apart for a brief excursion as the background to the white BR double arrow on the cabside of the XP64 locomotive Rail Red wasn't used on commercial rolling stock until the freight sector started to use it on the new air braked wagons, circa 1988, replacing a rather sombre 'Freight Brown'. I think Derby Research used it before then. The middle stripe of the later (APT) Inter City livery is (I believe) Rail Red. It is certainly red, but tending towards orange (or rather it fades to it. ) technically it is described as Azo Orangeseehttps://www.e-paint.co.uk/uk_organisations.asp?cOrg=BR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Does this picture help? /media/tinymce_upload/c1e3f470dc376d6f1dadde875b521dce.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Both of them look more orange than red to me!Dark orange seems closer than 'sort of red'. Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Railmatch Paints do "Rail Red" as Number 204. https://howesmodels.co.uk/product/rail-red-15ml-enamel/ http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=RM204 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 That looks a perfect match Sarah - I'd call it burnt orange! Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Yes Rail Red is officially called - Azo Orange. For comparison, the 'red' used on air brake wagons and on the class 58 . /media/tinymce_upload/c34f7bcbfe97f09c7a91d1cee951d4cd.jpg/media/tinymce_upload/5e80a35fad52def53d7c1841d93addb2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new lad on block Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Hi, Hornby made a special edition R4335 in 2009.It was based on GWR Auto Trailer coach.Photo may help with colours./media/tinymce_upload/45ed3cbadfff6a9e220eecbdb49f2eb1.JPG/media/tinymce_upload/c20e996a725bf5936d34732648fb8388.JPG/media/tinymce_upload/c1a46a836b050c762e9b62062390f119.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81F Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 Many thanks to you all and Darahagain for thge paint reference. I'll probably try to track down a sprey version. If I remember correctly, just add 1000 to the paint number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Fantastic images, new lad on block. Thank you for posting them. 😀 GNR-Gordon-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 From a quick look around...it seems that Rail Red is not in the Spray Can range....no trace of 1204! (which would be the coreect number) Probably contact Howes and ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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