Hawkerhurricaneguy Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Whats your least favoruite scheme to paint? While i like making german planes i find the use of Large Amounts of yellow on some of them exhausting as yellow is the worst colour to paint with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebeep Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Getting a good gloss white is my bete noir. I have no problem with yellow over a white base coat, but that was after I finally gave in and invested in airbrush equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailorman Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Hi Paul,White was always my problem too.I'm finding I'm getting good results with airbrushed Humbrol Satin White 130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkerhurricaneguy Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 Hi Paul,White was always my problem too.I'm finding I'm getting good results with airbrushed Humbrol Satin White 130 i dont use Humbrol paints anymore; i use xtracrylic paints. Yellow is still a horrible colour to paint with though no matter if it is sprayed or brushed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discostu Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 My modelling nemesis seems to be Luftwaffe mottling. Can’t seem to get the hang of it. Been using an airbrush for a couple of years now and get good results when I build RAF or USAAF subjects but I’ve binned a couple of BF 109’s trying to paint them. When I finally build a 109 where the mottling looks good, the champagne will flow! Oh well, as long time contributor to the forum, John the Pom says “we do this for fun”. Cheers, Stuart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkerhurricaneguy Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 My modelling nemesis seems to be Luftwaffe mottling. Can’t seem to get the hang of it. Been using an airbrush for a couple of years now and get good results when I build RAF or USAAF subjects but I’ve binned a couple of BF 109’s trying to paint them. When I finally build a 109 where the mottling looks good, the champagne will flow! Oh well, as long time contributor to the forum, John the Pom says “we do this for fun”. Cheers, Stuart.ive never attempted to do Luftwaffe mottling, when i do i may get a mask for it or a super fine airbrush; i need to get a super fine airbrush anyway as im planning on doing a scheme like this for a ICM Ju-88a-4/Torp/media/tinymce_upload/f1aec2a5cb9acc4817f59a271a8045a0.jpgThe inital green will be easy to do but the RLM 65 will be intresting to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Jones1707820337 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Many, many years ago, as a teenager, attempting German WW1 lozenge patterns - basically ended up as random blobs of the colours. All done as decals, now, although I suspect forming them around fuselages etc will be just as bad.More recently, before I got an airbrush (and before I discovered proper thinning), trying to get a consistent coat of any colour with a hairy stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I would imagine that under all those squiggles is the regular RLM70/71 splinter scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jeff Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Ive never attempted to do Luftwaffe mottling, when i do i may get a mask for it or a super fine airbrush; i need to get a super fine airbrush anyway as im planning on doing a scheme like this for a ICM Ju-88a-4/Torp/media/tinymce_upload/f1aec2a5cb9acc4817f59a271a8045a0.jpgThe inital green will be easy to do but the RLM 65 will be intresting to doNow that would just do my head in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish1707821547 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I managed to get to grips with mottling after a couple of attempts, but i have put off that Wallenmuster scheme for years, but will have to tackle it one of these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailorman Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Lozenge camo..... without a doubt !/media/tinymce_upload/a5f439d6c3258774c5c5fad809d73751.jpg/media/tinymce_upload/5da16d823df4534dcce07654f637c2c2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1707821018 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Lozenge camo..... without a doubt !/media/tinymce_upload/a5f439d6c3258774c5c5fad809d73751.jpg/media/tinymce_upload/5da16d823df4534dcce07654f637c2c2.jpgThat's why lozenge pattern decals were invented ....Real lozenge camouflage was printed onto the fabric covering so decals are more representative than painting on the pattern as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Symmons Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Or the Italian WW 2 fighter schemes give me the hee-bee's. Maybe an easier way to do WW 1 losenge patterns is to make some decals in a drawing program. It's a lot easier than painting, and I can get a whole A4 sheet printed for less than 20P ( R. 10) plus the cost of decal paper. the joy is that once you have th basic losenge pattern you can easily change the colours for upper and lower surfaces and or 4 and 5 colour patterns. Just remember to get the printer to set the colour to maximium. Remember we do this for fun John the Pom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailorman Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Mine was built about 20 years ago .... before decals were available. .....We have it easy nowadays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth ONeill Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Mottle, although I've never attempted lozenge or Luftwaffe squiggle.With decals, I think lozenge should be easy, given that I have done overall and more or less overall schemes on cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2B Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 My latest attempt at a mottled camo, which can be seen on my recent Gustav build!/media/tinymce_upload/b6dda3cc2fc4c51e9d0ed0cf2a7458a2.jpgIts kind of what I was intending. But was discovered by chance when I realised the tip of my airbrush needle was worn/damaged and at lower pressure was spitting out lol! It has now been replaced with a new item but I have saved the old 1 for any future effects if needed 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash342 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 /media/tinymce_upload/1dba45a181a787ec45b7b056094f4cd2.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash342 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Does anyone know how to paint this effe that’s on this model, I want to build a 109 with this scheme /media/tinymce_upload/1fe5a64851018e8d73e70b55c3659cb2.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth ONeill Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I presume that you mean the "grey over pale blue" on the fuselage sides. That's where we were talking about "mottle" above. There are a number of techniques, none of which I have ever been very successful at doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabhand Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 ..... i can recall that my attempt at painting an Airfix Me262 uppers Eau de Nil (Dulux as I recall) back in the 1960s was highly regarded by 'me mates'. I'm pretty sure I used one of the brushes left in the jam-pot after household decorating. Painted 'around' the 'transfers' too as i recall. ..... Luftwaffe mottles were done using a cut down paint brush using a method called 'stippling' if I remember rightly - Airfix M2 (dark grey) being most commonly used as I recall. 'Worst' finishes were the Saturn 1b and Saturn V rockets featuring black panels on white. The plastic was already white, but the Airfix Gloss Black (n a triangular bottle if I recall rightly) was applied before the concept of masking had entered my realm. And the runs down the sides complemented the thick splodges in those areas it was meant to be. Won second prize in my (infant) school class for the Saturn Ib! And yes, to have had a go at painting was far, far better than not and finishes were greatly admired however awful we might think of them today! I also recall using washing up liquid to clean my brushes, never 'branded' thinners. White spirit when modelling coincided with household decorating! Never thinned paint - to stir was rare too. One or two vigorous shakes would suffice. Alway found white difficult, still do! But success through use of properly mixed paint, thinned, and applied over an undercoat of matt white similarly prepared using a clean 'chisel edged' brush being the key to any success achieved! Thin, multiple coats over an apt matt undercoat always the best way forward for me, a dedicated user of the hairy brush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadgent Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 luftwaffe scribble cammo and any sort of light coulours in gloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockhopper Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Hannatnts (and others) sell reusable metal spray masks to make it easy(er) to do most kinds of Luftwaffe mottling type cammo. I've also never had a probelm with spraying Vallejo yellow over white undercoat - or XF-3 over white come to that. Lots of thin coats and build up the colour gradually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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