ColinB Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 When did Hornby add a smoke deflector on the HST? I have a really old HST and I was upgrading it to DCC with directional lights. To get a better power bogie as mine didn't work very well, I bought a second hand power car as it was the same price as just the bogie, and I could use some of the other bits. I noticed the new "Virgin" one had a smoke deflector whereas mine did not. I got one on that popular auction site to upgrade mine, but I just wondered in the real world if the HSTs didn't have them initially, or did Horny not model them originally to save money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Where are they, a picture would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new lad on block Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Hi Colin, do you mean the exhaust deflector on the top of the roof.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 The Lima version had an exhaust deflector on the roof, at least mine did when I had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Hornby did add the roof cowl to their own body moulding well before the acquisition of Lima but exactly when, I do not know.GS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iliketransport Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On the original release of the HST both in real life and in the old Hornby model they did not have exhaust deflectors, these were added a little later on. To my knowledge, the Swallow Release onwards had the deflectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Great, thanks that explains it. Yes, it is the exhaust deflector, the guy that was selling them called them the different name. I must admit, they look better with them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new lad on block Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Hi ColinB, It seems with regards to the later super detailed HST offerings, Hornby has produced them with and without the exhaust deflectors.This new tooling came out in 2008, one of the first issues was R2702, Intercity Executive.Produced with deflectors.The two latest releases R3685, GWR, has deflectors fitted.R3802, LNER, does not have deflectors fitted.It will take me time to check all my other earlier HSTs, i.e. from 1978 tooling.Photos hopefully shows with and without deflectors./media/tinymce_upload/b88b64d80997445136b5621c67870cd0.JPG/media/tinymce_upload/f74294c4440ca26139e89f59686a5e75.JPG/media/tinymce_upload/229dafa09f22459be9c769219edadac1.JPG/media/tinymce_upload/5856f0fdedb92f5c0c0d92befb27f315.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 The deflectors were fitted to the IC125 power cars to try to minimise the tendancy of the exhaust to stain the paint and the windscreen of the trailing car... Look at early photos, and there is a black line down the nose of the power cars! This happened some time after the introduction of the IC125 sets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new lad on block Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just got the larest two Railroad HSTs, pack and trainset.Both have the deflectors fitted.Have started a new thread with pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Why have you started a new thread, this one is still extant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new lad on block Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 OPS WTD, Never started it! Good Job eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 If it has pictures it may take a while to appear if Adam is on a long Christmas break. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new lad on block Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I was going to start a new thread with the title as R1230 & R3608, and do a review of both items, with plenty of pictures.Also comparing earlier Superdetailed versions as a comparison.These are the two new ones just released, and many may be interested to see what they are like.As nearly always happens my photos come onto the wider web with a Hornby.Com tag.Hence if those numbers were googled it would show them,and direct the searcher to the relevent Hornby thread.If I put them on this thread it would take the 'Google searcher' to this thread, and not a dedicated thread just dealing with the new release HSTs.Like many on the forum, my pictures go straight througth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Fair enough. The wording of your post gave the impression it was about the exhaust deflectors. If you are reviewing the two trains then by all means start a new post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Looking at pictures in my Class 43 HST book the exhaust deflectors just did not work as the nose is dirty on all variants of the prototype.I will dig the book out and show a couple of examples another day, as I have to sort the reindeer food out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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