What About The Bee Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Thanks anyway Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deem Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 8 hours ago, ColinB said: It wasn't a Brio it was a cheap toy (well not really cheap) smoked and changed the light display. I must admit I wasn't that interested in it it, the woman in the gift shop said they had sold loads. Most toys have micros (usually some really cheap Pic derivative or Chinese equivalent) these days so controlling it is not that difficult. I bought one from China for my nephew for £22.00 with smoke or steam (as we call it), light as well, all battery operated with carriages and track as well. Link is below: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGkFSqj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 4 hours ago, Deem said: I bought one from China for my nephew for £22.00 with smoke or steam (as we call it), light as well, all battery operated with carriages and track as well. Link is below: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGkFSqj That is cheap for what it is. The one I saw was completely static, I think the wheels moved but it was on a stand. It was about £33.00 but then it was in their gift shop, so that was probably the recommended retail price. When you think about the technology must be relatively cheap as the Flying Scotsman is expensive, but not that expensive compared to Hornby's other models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-1301567 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 On 21/07/2024 at 16:46, LTSR_NSE said: Oh dear, I can imagine the naysayers clacking away… “if BRIO can offer that in a £40 loco… why does FS cost £250 more?” 🤦♂️ I noticed someone was selling the Queen Elizabeth 2 for over £600 on Ebay now that's scandalous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 More fool the idiot who pays that much!! If nobody 'bites' then it'll have to come down. Don't want to pay that? Don't buy it. Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesXRN Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 Well, my new Scotsman finally arrived yesterday evening. Although it's a lovely model, I wasn't too impressed with what I saw when I opened the packaging. Fortunately, it pushed back in, but I do hope it's not supposed to be water tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM6 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 The smoke box door is merely a cover to hide the SS system inside - including the water reservoir. It's likely to only be an interference fit so probably down to the courier giving it a rough ride rather than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I would imagine it’s intended to be removable and absolutely not water tight for obvious reasons 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I must try my one. I have had it for a month, and other than making sure it was complete - which it was, and adding it to my iPhone app. it has yet to run with "steam". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-1301567 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Well I'm having no problems at all with the Flying Scotsman Loco. Sound and Steam work hand in hand. Must be gut breaking when there are problems with these kind of up market models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesXRN Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 My wife and the visiting kids are out, so I gave the Scotsman a run on the rollers. It worked well, although the sound seems a bit skitish at times, but I can live with that. Although I ran it straight out of the box using my Digitrax controller, I also managed to alter the volume and acceleration/deceleration rates via the Bluetooth app. 20240726_141029.mp4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew Man Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Oh, that is nice. I can see what the big attraction is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 She looks great Les. I'd love to see them apply this tech to a Lord Nelson!! 8 beats per revolution!! Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew Man Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 4 minutes ago, atom3624 said: She looks great Les. I'd love to see them apply this tech to a Lord Nelson!! 8 beats per revolution!! Al. Yes, at least I have one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 The very early testing shown on the TV series used a Lord Nelson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesXRN Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 I suppose, eventually, that 2nd hand broken/damaged Scotsmen and Black 5's will become available, giving those clever enough the chance to retrofit the smoke units into other loco's. Might be a while though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 2 hours ago, LesXRN said: I suppose, eventually, that 2nd hand broken/damaged Scotsmen and Black 5's will become available, giving those clever enough the chance to retrofit the smoke units into other loco's. Might be a while though. It is a bit difficult. You can fit the unit but there is some software in the HM7000 that makes it work. It is not so easy to retrofit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deem Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 4 hours ago, LesXRN said: My wife and the visiting kids are out, so I gave the Scotsman a run on the rollers. It worked well, although the sound seems a bit skitish at times, but I can live with that. Although I ran it straight out of the box using my Digitrax controller, I also managed to alter the volume and acceleration/deceleration rates via the Bluetooth app. 20240726_141029.mp4 Very nice, I do have P2 with steam and W1 Hush Hush with steam is on pre order. This looks very cool and I might have consider buying this if I can get the money from some where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-380474 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 So my Scotsman arrived back today. No secret mark visible and so at least the packaging is new. The engine ran fine, and it was still loaded with water which puffed and chuffed wonderfully. (Obviously the QA boys had tested it thoroughly before dispatch). One surprise to note however was that it had no sound profile loaded (as the previous one did have). 40 minutes later (awful broadband in chez moi) and the appropriate profile was downloaded and working. All well and good. Looking to 'belt and braces' the engine I switched it to DCC mode. It ran fine on the Elite controller. On Railmaster, I found problems however. With no exact profile to use I chose a couple of BR versions. Neither gave me any graduated speed control. It was either 0 or 1mph, in which 1 mph was flat out crazy fast. Any ideas on how to solve this? (apart from testing all the dozens of Scotsman profiles available one by one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesXRN Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 Paul. One thing I found when I altered the acceleration and deceleration rates was that I inadvertently set the deceleration to maximum, i.e, the slider fully across to the right on the phone app'. The problem was that slider then wouldn't move, so I had to delete everything regarding the loco and start again. After reloading the loco, it worked. So, it seems it's a little buggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesXRN Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 14 hours ago, ColinB said: It is a bit difficult. You can fit the unit but there is some software in the HM7000 that makes it work. It is not so easy to retrofit that. I did wonder if a Zimo would have the feature to turn on the steam as it happens. I guess we'll find out eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britannia Builder Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Good to hear that you've got a working loco, Paul - I think everyone who reported faults on this thread has now been sorted out by Hornby? I think the loco would have had the profile loaded, you probably just needed to set up the functions in the app rather than downloading the profile again. The problem that you report in Railmaster is a bug in RM, not specific to the Flying Scotsman. Just choose any A3 with the correct BR livery and then set up the functions manually. You just need to delete and reinstall the loco in RM until the throttle slider works properly. It's been mentioned on this forum previously. Regards, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-380474 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Thanks John. I will give that a go. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, LesXRN said: I did wonder if a Zimo would have the feature to turn on the steam as it happens. I guess we'll find out eventually. It is like the HSTs the HM7000 controls the fans I don't think the Zimo module does that either. It is possible to do, it is only a piece of software but it is a bit more complicated than adding a sound profile. The steam is dependant on speed and that input from one of the wheel sets from what I gather. Yes it is possible but I don't know whether Zimo would think it worth doing. Of course if Dapol were to make a loco with a similar feature, they usually get Zimo to do the sound decoder, so possibly they would transfer the technology across the range. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-380474 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, Britannia Builder said: Good to hear that you've got a working loco, Paul - I think everyone who reported faults on this thread has now been sorted out by Hornby? I think the loco would have had the profile loaded, you probably just needed to set up the functions in the app rather than downloading the profile again. The problem that you report in Railmaster is a bug in RM, not specific to the Flying Scotsman. Just choose any A3 with the correct BR livery and then set up the functions manually. You just need to delete and reinstall the loco in RM until the throttle slider works properly. It's been mentioned on this forum previously. Regards, John Wow! The old USB device trick - it always fits on the third way round. A couple of re-installs of the Scotsman in Railmaster and suddenly I have graduated speed control. Thanks John!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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