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81F said: da4472vid said: are the bottom is all ready there 0-6-0s just a littel modification needed for the Dean Goods ="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=dean+goods&start=114&hl=en&sa=X&gbv=2&biw=1024&bih=651&tbm=isch&tbnid=SqKNqRftlINFZM:&imgrefurl=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Photographic-Prints-Goods-locomotive-Steam/dp/B001NIB6A6&docid=0CMfWpXk7DG3rM&imgurl=http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YmNzXIaAL._SL500_AA300_.jpg&w=300&h=300&ei=77LoT474KceD8gPHtZT9Dg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=596&vpy=3&dur=2600&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=114&ty=133&sig=112463214718074166888&page=8&tbnh=140&tbnw=140&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429">http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=dean+goods&start=114&hl=en&sa=X&gbv=2&biw=1024&bih=651&tbm=isch&tbnid=SqKNqRftlINFZM:&imgrefurl=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Photographic-Prints-Goods-locomotive-Steam/dp/B001NIB6A6&docid=0CMfWpXk7DG3rM&imgurl=http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YmNzXIaAL._SL500_AA300_.jpg&w=300&h=300&ei=77LoT474KceD8gPHtZT9Dg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=596&vpy=3&dur=2600&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=114&ty=133&sig=112463214718074166888&page=8&tbnh=140&tbnw=140&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:114,i:89 also ive noteset this odd loco ="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=County+Class+4-4-2T&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1024&bih=651&tbm=isch&tbnid=ER1jQY8KIxrfTM:&imgrefurl=http://spellerweb.net/rhindex/UKRH/GreatWestern/Narrowgauge/ChurchCount.html&docid=DOO4DXx2OgrzkM&imgurl=http://spellerweb.net/rhindex/UKRH/GreatWestern/Narrowgauge/CountyTank.jpg&w=797&h=275&ei=lbPoT4DIHseu8APcn9SzCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=598&vpy=186&dur=1380&hovh=132&hovw=383&tx=234&ty=84&sig=112463214718074166888&page=1&tbnh=65&tbnw=189&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429">http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=County+Class+4-4-2T&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1024&bih=651&tbm=isch&tbnid=ER1jQY8KIxrfTM:&imgrefurl=http://spellerweb.net/rhindex/UKRH/GreatWestern/Narrowgauge/ChurchCount.html&docid=DOO4DXx2OgrzkM&imgurl=http://spellerweb.net/rhindex/UKRH/GreatWestern/Narrowgauge/CountyTank.jpg&w=797&h=275&ei=lbPoT4DIHseu8APcn9SzCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=598&vpy=186&dur=1380&hovh=132&hovw=383&tx=234&ty=84&sig=112463214718074166888&page=1&tbnh=65&tbnw=189&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:82

da4472vid said: are the bottom is all ready there 0-6-0s just a littel modification needed for the Dean Goods ="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=dean+goods&start=114&hl=en&sa=X&gbv=2&biw=1024&bih=651&tbm=isch&tbnid=SqKNqRftlINFZM:&imgrefurl=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Photographic-Prints-Goods-locomotive-Steam/dp/B001NIB6A6&docid=0CMfWpXk7DG3rM&imgurl=http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YmNzXIaAL._SL500_AA300_.jpg&w=300&h=300&ei=77LoT474KceD8gPHtZT9Dg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=596&vpy=3&dur=2600&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=114&ty=133&sig=112463214718074166888&page=8&tbnh=140&tbnw=140&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429">http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=dean+goods&start=114&hl=en&sa=X&gbv=2&biw=1024&bih=651&tbm=isch&tbnid=SqKNqRftlINFZM:&imgrefurl=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Photographic-Prints-Goods-locomotive-Steam/dp/B001NIB6A6&docid=0CMfWpXk7DG3rM&imgurl=http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YmNzXIaAL._SL500_AA300_.jpg&w=300&h=300&ei=77LoT474KceD8gPHtZT9Dg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=596&vpy=3&dur=2600&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=114&ty=133&sig=112463214718074166888&page=8&tbnh=140&tbnw=140&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:114,i:89 also ive noteset this odd loco ="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=County+Class+4-4-2T&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1024&bih=651&tbm=isch&tbnid=ER1jQY8KIxrfTM:&imgrefurl=http://spellerweb.net/rhindex/UKRH/GreatWestern/Narrowgauge/ChurchCount.html&docid=DOO4DXx2OgrzkM&imgurl=http://spellerweb.net/rhindex/UKRH/GreatWestern/Narrowgauge/CountyTank.jpg&w=797&h=275&ei=lbPoT4DIHseu8APcn9SzCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=598&vpy=186&dur=1380&hovh=132&hovw=383&tx=234&ty=84&sig=112463214718074166888&page=1&tbnh=65&tbnw=189&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429">http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=County+Class+4-4-2T&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1024&bih=651&tbm=isch&tbnid=ER1jQY8KIxrfTM:&imgrefurl=http://spellerweb.net/rhindex/UKRH/GreatWestern/Narrowgauge/ChurchCount.html&docid=DOO4DXx2OgrzkM&imgurl=http://spellerweb.net/rhindex/UKRH/GreatWestern/Narrowgauge/CountyTank.jpg&w=797&h=275&ei=lbPoT4DIHseu8APcn9SzCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=598&vpy=186&dur=1380&hovh=132&hovw=383&tx=234&ty=84&sig=112463214718074166888&page=1&tbnh=65&tbnw=189&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:82

Having just posted the above i have just remembered my Dean Goods and Old Airfix Castle. Although easy to chip their tender drives are cheep and nasty which spoils what is a very nice looking loco. The castle body has now been transfered to a Hornby Hogwarts Castle with little modification while its tender drive is waiting to provide spares to keep the Dean Goods going until Hornby make a loco drive one (Please!)

My Margate built tender drives (a King, Saint, 28XX and 8F) all perform well at medium and High speeds. However, since fitting a DCC chip low speed control is a bit erratic although they were pretty good on DC. Fitting chips to the 28XX (and original 440 County) is problematic as I had to drill out and fit a plastic bush to isolate the carbon brush cover to insulate the motor. Although not too difficult after you have done a couple! Having said that I have replaced my County 440 chassis with the new loco driven one from the railroad range. Another down side is when the bar connecting the loco to the tender is sprung. Although this allows closer coupling when running on the straight the tender can sometimes move a few mm before the loco does thereby destroying the illusion. On a plus side they seem more powerful (providing the traction tyres are not streached) and parts are more interchangeable. One of my 8Fs has the tender chassis from the afore mentioned county (with new sideframes) and my king has an armiture from an old Black 5.

oorail77 said: You might want to look into shelf layouts if space is a concern. They are easy to build and can be installed at various heights. I am in the process of building one in my son's room. You can easily get 2nd and 3rd radius curves between two shelves (eg. corner of a room etc). I put together some photos on YouTube of how I built my main layout in the basement. Its a little different from a large baseboard, but you can build some impressive layouts with the approach without it taking over your house! :) Some of the newer detailed steam locomotives from Hornby and multiple units from various manufacturers do just about get around 2nd radius curves. If space is a concern, you might want to look at the Atlas 18" radius curves, these are a little bit wider radius than 2nd radius track and seem to handle the multiple units better. Have a look at http://www.youtube.com/oorail77 for details Hope that helps Most of my layouts have been end to end but you really need to be quite long 10' x 2' is good in that it allows a 7' scenic section and 3' of hidden siding. However you do need a few more points (to make for interesting shunting) and I'm not sure how flexible you can be with the space available. If you are stuck with a continuous run configuration It might be better to have just a single loop of 2nd radius and have more sidings in the middle or a U shape.