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Can someone help. I was recently given a HD A4 two-rail. The engine is obviously used but in overall fine cosmetic condition. I serviced it (including new brushes) since it hadn't been used for donkeys and it now runs and pulls well except that it regularly

 

starts screeching for a moment and then returns to normal. It seems the worm and gear are correctly aligned and mesh properly. So I am dumbfounded. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Hi

When was the last time the loco was lubricated properly?? according to the Dublo instructions.

If you don't have them I suggest you find some one who has and get a copy.

Dublo locos need more maintenance tasks done than the modern stuff.

You

 

could also put a little(argh not that much!! I said a little bit) Tamiya grease on the worm and wheel.

Should be available at your local radio control car shop.

hopefully its only a lubrication problem perhaps somewhere that should be done that got

 

missed.

A proper clean and lube job usually sorts most odd noises out.

Particularly if the loco has not run for a very long time the oil and grease may have dried out.

hope this helps

regards John

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rayarpino said:

Can someone help. I was recently given a HD A4 two-rail. The engine is obviously used but in overall fine cosmetic condition. I serviced it (including new brushes) since it hadn't been used for donkeys and it now runs and

pulls well except that it regularly starts screeching for a moment and then returns to normal. It seems the worm and gear are correctly aligned and mesh properly. So I am dumbfounded. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.


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the body and at the top and bottom of the armature are 2 bearing surfaces that have run dry. A small drop of oil on both surfaces will stop the screech. Check that the armature has a very small amount of up and down movement. SMALL means SMALL in all contexts.

I suggest a small drop of oil to the worm gear and all connecting rods as well. The wheel axles will benefit too with a drop of oil. Dublo engines like this can be lubed with a light oil such as sewing machine oil as they have no plastic rubbish in them to

deteriorate.
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Clashfern is right, on the X03/X04 motors you will want to lubricate the bearings on the armature. On the X04 motors there are felt-like pads that typically dry out that you need to lubricate in order to lubricate the bearings.
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oorail77 said:

Clashfern is right, on the X03/X04 motors you will want to lubricate the bearings on the armature. On the X04 motors there are felt-like pads that typically dry out that you need to lubricate in order to lubricate the bearings.

Correct

me if I'm wrong which I'm sure somebody will, but I don't think Hornby Dublo locos have X03/04 motors.
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walkingthedog said:

oorail77 said:

Clashfern is right, on the X03/X04 motors you will want to lubricate the bearings on the armature. On the X04 motors there are felt-like pads that typically dry out that you need to lubricate in order

to lubricate the bearings.
Correct me if I'm wrong which I'm sure somebody will, but I don't think Hornby Dublo locos have X03/04 motors.


No they did not have the X series motors. Only the 0-6-0 R1 tank had a similar motor to the X series.

The others all had motors as part of the chassis or bogie.
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walkingthedog said:

oorail77 said:

Clashfern is right, on the X03/X04 motors you will want to lubricate the bearings on the armature. On the X04 motors there are felt-like pads that typically dry out that you need to lubricate in order

to lubricate the bearings.
Correct me if I'm wrong which I'm sure somebody will, but I don't think Hornby Dublo locos have X03/04 motors.
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walkingthedog said:

oorail77 said:

Clashfern is right, on the X03/X04 motors you will want to lubricate the bearings on the armature. On the X04 motors there are felt-like pads that typically dry out that you need to lubricate in order

to lubricate the bearings.
Correct me if I'm wrong which I'm sure somebody will, but I don't think Hornby Dublo locos have X03/04 motors.
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rayarpino said:

Hi,

Thanks to all. Indeed this Hornby-Dublo does not have the X03/X04 type of motor. I had done all the lubrication most of you have advised before posting my question but the screech remains????


If you

have not stopped the screech yet then I suggest you slacken off the armature nut at the top of the chassis a fraction and re oil without removing it. I have never NOT been able to get rid of a screech and this is the likliest place, the bearings of the armature.
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Thank you I'll try that but you did say you had not been able to get rid of the screech????

Clashfern said:

 

If you have not stopped the screech yet then I suggest you slacken off the armature nut at the top of the chassis a fraction and re

 

oil without removing it. I have never NOT been able to get rid of a screech and this is the likliest place, the bearings of the armature.

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rayarpino said:

Thank you I'll try that but you did say you had not been able to get rid of the screech????Clashfern said:

If you have not stopped the screech yet then I suggest you slacken off the armature nut at the top of the chassis

a fraction and re oil without removing it. I have never NOT been able to get rid of a screech and this is the likliest place, the bearings of the armature.


I have never had a problem getting rid of screeches it is almost always the armature

bearings. Just make sure that you have a very small amount of play in the up/down movement in the armature.
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Sorry I misread you. Thanks again.

 

I have never had a problem getting rid of screeches it is almost always the armature bearings. Just make sure that you have a very small amount of play in the up/down movement in the armature.[/reply]

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Didn't the later N2s, 8Fs and Castles have the same motor as the R1 or was that just Wrenn. I would also add that a screech is most likely to be an armature bearing since its limited drive train means I doubt if anything else would move fast enough.

 

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