Hilux59721707820819 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Hi all Does this need 2 decoders for the lighting since there is no electrical link through the train this release? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 If this query relates to the new version of the BB, then this extract below was taken from the Hornby product page:./media/tinymce_upload/783f72eab34efac6b757189197909bf5.jpg.However, the description goes on to say:./media/tinymce_upload/34154f56a71f889dce872219252f0974.jpg.The illuminated table lamps will therefore obviously be powered from the track via the stated bogie pickups. The unanswered question is, "is the Directional Lighted Headcodes" only on the front power car or both cars. If only on the front, then I would take that to mean one decoder. If both cars have directional lighting then two decoders would more likely be needed..I appreciate that this does not actually answer your question, but the information might be helpful to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 It does say headcodes, not headcode, so I take that to imply one at each end, hence 2 decoders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Surely it would tell you in the instructions whether two decoders were required? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 The question has been answered in another posting, stating that the headcodes are not illuminated at all - so don't worry about directional, despite what is said by Hornby in the special features this set has. This is disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I've resurrected this post as having bought the latest coach pack a little while ago, I am going to need the R3606 Driving and trailer cars at some stage. I've just looked on ebay, and two offerings show the box, and on the front top right-hand corner of the box there is a small "banner" that says "Pullman coaches have working lights that operate when the train is in motion". Surely if this is a DCC item the lights shound be on as soon as the loco(?) is placed on the track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Is that not because they are DCC ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Is that not because they are DCC ready. May be Brian - but if you put a standard Hornby Pullman Coach (with lights) on the track - the lights come on. I had assumed the Brighton Belle would be the same. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Only if it’s DCC BB. DC or DCC ready will only light up once in motion. No power on the track when loco stationary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I accept that Brian - but as a DCC operator, it could be confusing at first reading. I'll have to buy one and try it out! BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 But it says it’s DCC ready not DCC. Once you add your decoders then it will light up all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 My normal pullmans light up on DCC. My DC Brighton belle, however, only lights up on moving, as does my Arnold one. Not sure if that helps, probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 DC locos and carriages only ever light up once moving as there is no power to the track until you turn the power knob, unlike DCC where power is constantly on the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olly Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 just got this set for Christmas and the power car is not running at all.maybe has a short circuitI was going to check the DCC plug but I have no instructions in the box so not sure how to remove the body don't want to break anything can anyone tell me how to remove the body or post the instructions for me to take a look at if not I will have to sent it back for a replacement but wanted to check the simple things first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Olly. my advice, dont. attempt anything. Simply exchange it.. Far better to return unopened . You could through no fault of your own. find a fragile bit breaks, then . your return option, gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olly Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Had a look on Google about removing the body you put a business card or credit card down the sides Decided to risk removing the body as I would have had to anyway if it was working to fit a decoder. When I removed the body I couldn't see anything wrong with it . everything looked ok I decided to check the DCC blanking plug as that was the only thing I could think of I fitted a different blanking plug and it worked so must have been a faulty blanking plug Now I have the unit working I will give it a good test over the next few days before fitting a decoder.Hopefully I will have no more problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Good for you, braver than me. So much for quality control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olly Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Good for you, braver than me. So much for quality control. That's what I thought yelrow no quality control couldn't have been tested at the factory I will email Hornby and see if they can send me the operating and maintenance instructions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 These instructions are for the R3184 2 car set, should be similar........HB/media/tinymce_upload/673626660b33cef1517f67b040daa8d0.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 There’s also a chance that the blanking plug, rather than being faulty, was pushed in too far and shorting on something behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olly Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 These instructions are for the R3184 2 car set, should be similar........HB/media/tinymce_upload/673626660b33cef1517f67b040daa8d0.jpgThanks for the instructions howbiman . the only thing that looks different is the circuit board.its now a lot smaller and fits in a plastic housing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olly Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 There’s also a chance that the blanking plug, rather than being faulty, was pushed in too far and shorting on something behind. I had already checked that Fishmanoz . There was nothing wrong with the socket and that can't Short-circuit on anything as on this latest model it's all screwed to a plastic housing at the top of the seating unit That was my first thought about the blanking plug too or maybe a bit of bad soldering on the socket but it turned out to be the blanking plug itself . I now have the unit running with no problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bexhill Donkey Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On pages 50-60 of the Hornby Catalogue 2020 Edition 66, R3606 Brighton Belle 1967 is featured as a two-car set. On page 54, R3606 is listed as being part of the 2020 range. However, there is no mention of R4871 the 1967 Pullman Cars Pack which goes with this set. The 1960 Brighton Belle, R3184 was previously dropped from the range and R3606 Brighton Belle 1967 had with R4871 intermediate cars apparently replaced it.The difficulty is that the 1967 Belle, R3184 as connecting drawbars like the 4VEP, whereas R3606, the 1960 Belle has conventional hook-and-bar couplings fitted into NEM pockets. The 1960 set is supplied with alternative close couplings. Consequently, it is important to note the centre cars for the 1960 Belle cannot be used with the 1967 Belle and vice versa.What I want to know isThe illustration shows R3606 with apparently having connecting drawbars again as with R3184. Is this an illustration of R3184? In other words is the illustration of the previous model and will R3606 have hook-and-bar couplings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just in case anyone else is reading this - the latest Brighton Belle Pack R3606 can only be attached to the R4871 BB Coach Pack - it cannot be coupled to any of the other Brighton Belle coach packs, they have different couplings/connectors. Could be an expensive mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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