The last thing I pre-ordered from Hatton's was the class 800 Azuma 5-car set. The pre-order price was cheaper than anywhere else and it sold out almost immediately, and I consider myself lucky! I found Hatton's useful for other things like tins of Humbrol and point motors. I shall miss Hatton's! I think the mistake Hatton's made was the move to Widnes, since had they stayed in Liverpool, they could have fallen back on their passing trade. With the focus on mail order, they were vulnerable to international shipping costs. The observation made by the contributor above about the ageing population of modellers must surely be valid! With the focus on high-definition models for well-to-do collectors, it is too difficult for youngsters to build a collection. Model trains have never been cheap. There was always a huge markup in the model shop. But that's true of retailing generally, and that's why so many high street shops have been forced to close. It is difficult for modellers contributing to this forum to offer any business plan that the manufacturers and retailers could follow. However, I think the idea of reproducing Triang sets is a good one. Although Triang got into financial trouble, the basic idea was sound. Triang was a plastic toy manufacturer, whereas Hornby Dublo was a die-cast and tinplate specialist with high production costs. Probably what Hornby should do is produce a range of cheap plastic stations, buildings, and bridges, that can easily be put together to make a layout. Together with a range of train sets, of course. What do you think?