derek_dawson Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Hi all I have a Hornby 14xx which has just thrown a traction tyre but unable to locate one anywhere not even able to get wheel sets for it. This seems to be a widespead problem so suprised (or not suprised) why Hornby have not done another production run. Can anyone advise on my options as it seems a shame to loose a good loco for this. It is DCC and only used to haul one autocoach Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just for the benefit of other members who might be considering trying to assist. Some additional information that Derek omitted to include:.Hornby Service Sheet is 227G.Set of four traction tyres X8063 (out of stock at Peter's Spares).Wheel set X8816 (out of stock at Peter's Spares). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Even out of stock on ebay which is unusual. I wonder if another type will fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 This might help: http://www.modeltrains4u.co.uk/Spares-by-Loco/Class-14XX-0-4-2T/X8063-Traction-Tyres--Pk-Of-4.htm Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 That link also shows them listed as 'sold out'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntless Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I am also in need of traction tyres for a Hornby 14xx. If anyone does know of a source I would also be keen to know about availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81F Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I've never tried it but there is a product called Bullfrog Snot and a bit pricy when compared to a set of tyres see https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Bullfrog-Snot-Liquid-Traction-Tyres-for-Model-Railways-Slot-Cars-Etc/1560502663 I have several 14XX of Hornby, Airfis and Dapol parentage, all but one withdrawn from service due to traction tyre issues. Can someone confirm if the crank pins unscrew or some kind of push fit as this seems essential for refitting the tyres. However I have lost patience with most of mine and will be canabalising the front wheels of some to make others work as traction tyre free models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big big train Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Good evening,I've just looked in the spares section on the hornby website.I noticed there's a variety of traction tyres there,may be some of the larger tyres would fit?,worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Someone else suggested cutting narrow rings from a larger diameter heat shrink sleeve and then heat shrinking them onto the wheel rims. Never tried it myself, but it sounds plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Heat shrink is a bit shiny and tends to go a bit hard once shrunk. I reckon tyres from another loco would fit. Problem is finding the right ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 In my exepirence, spare parts are made and then that stock lasts a few years before anothere bathc gets produced. Perhaps the traction tyres for the 14xx has not been oroduced for a few years and if everywhere has sold out of them, which they seem have done just so, then another batch is due to be made. GNR-Gordon-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I do believe you are correct there, Caiptean. GNR-Gordon-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigskybirds Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I have the Warley 14XX model released last year and one traction tyre has recently disintegrated. No one has stock, Hornby Customer Service Mark Lodge tells me they are no longer available despite it being a current model in their line up. The suggestion was to return the model to the retailer for a refund since it is less than 12 months old. Come on Hornby get a grip you should support your current range especially when the instruction sheet on a less than 12 month old model states spare tyres available direct from Hornby. The replacement wheel sets are also no longer available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigskybirds Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 It was Hornby Customer Service who asked is it less than 12 months old. I contacted the retailer Rails and they have no spares so it looks like it is going back for a refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 In desparation try a simple old elastic band. They come in all sorts of sizes and sections so one may be close enough to do the job.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigskybirds Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Hi Rob Great minds think a like, that is what I am currently doing but as yet I cannot find anything suitable, they are too thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Mentioned earlier I think, but worth consideration.Are there any other models with similar-sized or very slightly smaller wheels requiring traction tyres? Agreed that if the tyres are narrower than the Hornby norm, it could be difficult, or tedious, to trim down. Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigskybirds Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I called around about a dozen smaller model shops until I found one with 6 in stock so bought all 6 so plenty of spares until they perish. I need to rethink buying new Hornby locomotives this is the third spares issue in 5 months on a current production model. I think Hornby expect people not to use the locomotives and just keep them in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I am sure Hornby will produce another batch of traction tyres. Soon hopefully. GNR-Gordon-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigskybirds Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Taken from the Hornby Web site We're sorry, the website has sold out of this item and we're not expecting any more stock A major spares retailer also said they do not expect them to be available again, at least I have now managed to obtain 4 pairs after many phone calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek_dawson Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 Thanks for all the replies,looks like I have another redundant loco. Last Hornby loco I will be purchasing, just another British company that sells you an item then does not give a toss if it goes wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I have quite a few assorted unused traction tyres from Hornby and Bachmann. Had a look to see if any were suitable for the 14xx but they had all perished. I got rid off all my tyred locos asap. 'orrid things. I have seen quite a few people on here say that the locos run OK without them. Guess it depends on the loco. Maybe a wheel change should be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Oh dear. Looks as if the 14xx traction tyres as spare part has been discontinued. I'm sorry you can't get a spare, derek_dawson. By the way, welcome to the Hornby Forum, derek_dawson. I'm sorry I didn't welcome you sooner. 😀 GNR-Gordon-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigskybirds Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 @Derek_Dawson If you ask the moderator to contact me I will inform him of where at least one pair of tyres was available to purchase as of yesterday. @Walkingthedog The 14xx runs fine without tyres until it reaches the points then the grooves in the wheels make it jump the check rails. Sadly I was unable to find a replacement wheel set they had sold out long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoFF03 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Can someone confirm if the crank pins unscrew or some kind of push fit as this seems essential for refitting the tyres. From past experence with Dapol and Hornby 14xx models I can confirm that the crank pins a a push/friction fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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