The_Seagull Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 morning all...looking to fit a chip into the tender of my R3062, but cant remove the body of the tender.....the instructions tell you to pull the tender body upwards and away from the chassis....but it wont budge, and i do not want to use too much force.......have tried this site and the hornby you tube channel, but cant find the answer......any ideas anyone....? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 First off, there is usually a screw near the coupler that has to be removed!If/as the bodyshell has never been off before, they can be a very tight fit, and maybe an over-bleed of a trace of paint has glued it onto the chassis.Get out your trusty credit card or a piece of acrylic sheet from the 'window' of a scrap box, and ease it into the gap, and work it all the way around the joint, to break the seal.Then the shell may tilt off, one end (where the screw was) coming up, and the other end (usually the front) on a moulded hook and slot arrangement.Don't use a 1" carpenter's chisel or a screwdriver as a lever, you will only break the shell, or stab yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog RJ Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 On the service sheet, https://www.hornby.com/downloads/view/download/item/364 you can see 4 "hooks" on the chassis sides which hold the top in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 HSS377 for R3062 clearly shows a chuffing great screw at the front of the tender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog RJ Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 HSS377 for R3062 clearly shows a chuffing great screw at the front of the tender. Quite right, I was pointing out that the service sheet also shows the clips or hooks which also hold the top in place even after the fixing screw is removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I think you'll find the screw does not hold the top in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I couldn't pull up HSS364 Rog - on the Hornby site at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog RJ Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I couldn't pull up HSS364 Rog - on the Hornby site at least.The link I posted brings up service sheet 377 when I copy and paste it. I have no idea why the number 364 is in the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 377 is a Service Sheet and 364 link appears to be a Maintenance Sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Ok WTD - hadn't spotted that. Explains about thow to get the body off lugs, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Seagull Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 evening all.....have been out all day, and have come back to see if anyone has answer....1) there is nowt in the instructions that came with the loco, about removing a screw, to remove the tender body, "chuffing" or otherwise...........2) yes, the images in the instructions DO show the position of the 4 locoting tabs for the tender body......HOWEVER, the image shown has the body REMOVED from the tender,,,.........3) the suggestion by 2eod seems to be the most sensible one, so will dig out a piece of plastic nad have another go in the morning.....will let you jnow how i get on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Seagull Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 morning all.....................well still cant get the body off the tender.......have tried to break the seal between the tender body and the chassis as suggested, but to no avail.......have used as much force as i dare, but remain very worried/nervous about breaking or chipping the tender body.so, there MUST be someone out there with one of these models, that can help me?otherwise, what chance is there that the administratir will intervene, to help a loyal customer?we shall see......off to put the kettle on.............Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozcavebear Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Hi Steve, yes I have one of these models and have fitted the decoder inside the tender. There are no screws to be undone, the tender cover does clip in with the four clips. I found the most success when removing the cover was to apply sideways pressure on both sides of the tender cover walls with your thumb and finger (towards the bottom of the shell where it joins the chassis) and at the same time pulling upwards. It does take a fair amount of force!!!. I also used a thin plastic sheet and fine jewellers screwdrive to run aroudn the groove to ensure there was nothing holding between the cover and chassis, Its worth also applying a small amount of levering force upwards between the chassis and cover as well. Hope you have success, it will come off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Seagull Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 hi ozcave bear.....thanks for the help., mucho appreciated................................but STILL cant get the tender body off the chassis...............totally hacked off with this now.....................................goin to leave it again until later in the week.......at this rate the model will soon be outside the warranty period offered by the seller........a certain co based in Margate...........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!............................................off to put the kettle on again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDS Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Hi The_SeagullIn his reply above, ozcavebear refers to 4 clips. I don't know whether this is relevant to your situation or not but when I have needed to remove a Loco body (I realise that yours is a tender) that is held in place by multiple clips, I have found it essential to ensure that a clip, once undone, does not slip back into the fastened position. In order to do this, I slip a piece of thin plastic over the clip to prevent it re-attaching. The thin clear plastic used in some packaging is ideal for this purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 It usually makes things easier if you can click out both clips at one end first, then the other end should rotate about the othe pair of clips and detach. Try to see which end is the best to do this from.It may be on this model looking at the diagram you could do it one side at a time rather than from the ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Seagull Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 HI RDS.... as explained earlier in the thread, the retaing clips will ONLY be visible ONCE the tender body has been removed, so no, your post is not relevant to my problem.......regards.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Seagull Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 good afternoon all......................well, this morning i took the model to my local model shop to ask for help.........explained to Colin the owner, and offered to come back next week............went for a browse of the cabinets in the shop and was soon called back to the counter..........with some skilled use of a blade the tender was off...............Colin fitted a decoder and clipped the tender body back in place.............now thats what i call service.........!!!! .........ordered a blue box loco while in the shop by way of a small thank you, for ending this frustrating saga for me...........will i be buying another Hornby loco.....?........NOT without a great deal of thought..........cheers all..........Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I always say if something is put together it can be taken apart or vice versa. If it's not screwed together it's clipped together. Your lucky you had somebody to take it to. Don't think our builders merchant would have been much help. I guess you were a bit nervous about removing it in the way you were advised. Think you'll find tenders from all makes of loco are often a clip fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Seagull Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 hi WTD, could not agree more.....maybe Hornby should include a hammer and chisel, or crowbar or some such with thier Loco's........? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Guitar plectrums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Watch your language poliss. Actually that's a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm from the school of "don't use force, get a bigger hammer" methodology for doing repairs and maintenance, so I suggest 4 jumbo sized plectrums be part of the kit, together with the lump hammer and tyre iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Or a pneumatic drill or press. I get my wife to stand on things like that, though. It's really effective, especially as I don't think she's particularly fond of my railway, and especially what I've spent on it. She could have had so many more pairs of shoes, dresses, tops etc...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Not my idea Graskie. It was Daves of Youtube fame. He got the idea from someone else.I use debit cards, or I would if my n scale loco shells weren't just a push fit. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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