Thankyou all so far for the contributions and enhanced knowledge I have gained from Reverse Loops, layout design and general help and support. @hobby has made a good point and I am grateful for the honesty here. 96RAF has also made it clear I should continue researching topics. My experience, planning and knowledge is poor admittedly. I have gone from a 4x4 to a 6x3, from a double loop with lots of sidings to a single loop with a reverse loop and now back to a reverse loop with a loop and not needing a reverse loop! Evidence I think a stop is required and a rethink. I want too much from a small space. I wanted a passenger loop or two that I could also run mixed freight over. I wanted sidings for shunting work and something to work when a loop was running. I liked the "look" of a Reverse loop, but I think its smaller size defeats such a look I was after. Thanks all. Hopefully with a rethink, improved planning and slowing down, I will get whatever I am looking for and be content.