96RAF Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I have noticed that it has become impossible to by-pass Windows 10 Defender when trying to download any update for RM. Previously it was easy to say Keep and Keep Anyway, etc to get past the false positive virus alert but just recently it has become a total no-no and Defender refuses to accept my over-ride and deletes the download file.Anyone else had the problem and have you been able to distract Defender enough to get the download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Henny Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Not that this really helps, but I have absolutely no issues downloading RM.But this is because, firstly my third party AV protection disables 'Defender' as part of its installation and secondly, my Firefox browser has learnt through experience (see P.P.S) that RM is a false positive and now no longer throws a wobbly when I initiate a download and now gives it a clean bill of health.Have you tried following AC's guidance with regards to Windows Security in this thread (about half way down the page):https://uk.hornby.com/community/forum/problem-down-loading-railmaster-345519?ccm_paging_p=1P.S I downloaded it this morning to check for availability of a later version and my download experience was as stated above.P.P.S I had to download it consecutively for about 30 days on the trot, before Firefox finally 'gave in' and now declares the RM file safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 Yes I do use ACs help site as a working reference.This has only happened in the last few weeks, so I put it down to a recent Windoze update.I can usually jump through the hoops when downloading updates including those for a similar RM type application, so the swerve procedure is well used by me as is the set-aside permissions to lull Defender into letting stuff past it’s ultra sensitive virus trapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Henny Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 The thread reply I linked to gives a specific procedure for Windows Security i.e Defender. It may be replicated on AC's website I haven't checked. For the elimination of doubt, the posted link has nothing to do directly with the AC help website persay.Unless you check his documented procedure in the linked thread, you wont know if it is the same procedure you currently use or something alternative and different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 Following through all those links I got to this which sounds promising…https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/how-to-tell-microsoft-edge-to-let-you-download-a-file-its-blocking/I will give it a try next time the Train-PC is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Henny Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 The extract copied and pasted below, is the AC advice I was referring to. But the 'Defender Smartscreen' configuration link (that incidently I posted originally) could do a better job as there is an option at the end of the guide to give a warning that can be overrided rather than just a temporary disablement."If you are being told the file cannot be downloaded then simply turn, temporarily, the threat protection part of Windows Security off.Open Windows SecurityClick on Virus and Threat ProtectionScroll down to Virus and Threat Protection Settings and click the link Manage SettingsTurn off Real-time and Cloud-delivered protection (the former is the critical one here but both being off is better)Download the RM setup file and installOn completion turn back on both protection settings" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 In last month’s discussion of this which includes the specific advice from AC, I report being able recently to ignore warnings and complete the download using Edge and W11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted April 8, 2023 Author Share Posted April 8, 2023 By temporarily turning off Smartscreen and Real time and Cloud delivered protection as above I was able to download RM by way of the normal set of Windoze hoop -jumping quirks.Happy bunny again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDS Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Nothing to do with updating RM but could this be the reason why I can no longer use my networked (slave) copy of RM, because it will not connect to my Master copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSR_NSE Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Have you confirmed that both PCs are able to communicate effectively & the issue is solely with RM?(e.g. cabling/WiFi connections; IP addresses; firewall ports etc. have already been confirmed as working correctly?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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