choralc Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 It's been two months since the last summary and only a few additions which I will post shortly. Since then I have come across a fella in Australia who bought a number of R1184s from Hattons and has pulled out the TTS modules and installed them into "...several Hall class Hornby locomotives, plus a Castle and several 2800 class locomotives. Most share the same tender body which does entail a little cramming to get everything inside without altering the bunker. A worthwhile conversion which apart from modifying the stock tender weight to sit better over the speaker, does give a pleasing result. Particularly enhances the 28XX class locomotives as the small drive wheels and low gearing suit the chuff rate at typical low goods loco speeds. The 2800 class enables a reliable 4 beats per revolution at low speeds...." I have bought one more R1184 from Hattons which arrived today and intend to place the module into R3105 Castle 'Wellington 5075'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choralc Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 List one. These are often but not alway RailRoad range models that have had TTS equipped models or announced but withdrawn: BR Class 7 (0) e.g. R3387TTS - x BR Class 8 (0) e.g. R3244TTS - x BR Class 9F (Crosti) (0) e.g. R3396TTS - x A1 (2) e.g. R3284TTS - choralc and dynax Fowler 2P (1) e.g. R3459 - choralc Fowler 4F (1) e.g. R3460 - choralc Hall (4) e.g. R1184 ex-set - choralc -1, and WilliamDavid - 3 King (2) e.g. R3370TTS - choralc & WilliamDavid Merchant Navy (4) e.g. R3382TTS - poppasmurf - 4 (his request was Bullied Pacifics and I have no idea if they would all sound the same as a Merchant Navy or that he would be happy to buy a total of four to retrofit others in the 4-6-2 type) P2 (0) e.g. R3246TTS - x Schools Class (1) e.g. R3386TTS - choralc Class 20 (1) e.g. R3394 - RDS Class 37 (2) e.g. R3289TTS - james_nelmes & RDS Class 40 (1) e.g. R3286TTS - james_nelmes Class 43 (6) e.g. - R3390 - dynax Class 47 (3) e.g. R3393TTS - james_nelmes, RDS & WilliamDavid Class 67 (1) e.g. R3388TTS - JermiahBunyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choralc Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 List 2. These are models with TTS that have been released, announced or withdrawn that have also had XS models. A4 (3) e.g. R3395TTS or R2805XS - choralc -2 & dynax Black 5 (2) e.g. R3385TTS or R2804XS - choralc Castle (3) e.g. R3383TTS or R2994XS - choralc -2 & WilliamDavid Class 31 (0) e.g. R3391TTS or R2803XS - x Class 60 (1) e.g. R3389TTS or R2899XS - JermiahBunyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choralc Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 List 3 is of XS fitted models but currently have no TTS versions announced or since withdrawn. Class 08 (3) e.g. R3037XS - dynax, JermiahBunyan Class 56 (0) e.g. R3291XS - x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choralc Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 The wish list. As far as I know Hornby hasn't made a sound version of any of the following requested as 'TTS kits'. 0-4-0 generic (3) - JermiahBunyan A3 (5) - WilliamDavid - 4 & dynax B1 (2) - dynax B17 (1) - WilliamDavid K1 (1) - WilliamDavid N15 (2) - choralc & poppasmurf Q1 (1) - poppasmurf Royal Scot (2) - choralc & RDS S15 (1) - poppasmurf Std 4 Tank (1) - poppasmurf T9 (2) - poppasmurf Class 25 (4) - dynax - 2, james_nelmes & WilliamDavid Class 26 (1) - dynax Class 42 (1) - dynax Class 50 (1) - dynax Class 52 (1) - dynax Class 55 (1) - dynax Class 66 (2) - RDS & WilliamDavid Class 70 (1) - RDS Class 71 (1) - JermiahBunyan Class 86 (1) - JermiahBunyan Class 90 (2) - JermiahBunyan Class 92 (1) - JermiahBunyan Class 110 (1) - dynax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choralc Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 For those TTS only models that have been released, announced or withdrawn - 29 (+1) For models released with XS but also released, announced or withdrawn - 9 (+1) For models previously released with XS but no TTS to date - 3 (+1) Wish List - 37 over 23+ different models. If any of these have in fact have had an XS or TTS model and not placed in the appropriate list please let me know. I will continue to summarise every so often while requests come in until I drop dead or give up waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenD Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 The TTS kits I would like to see being made available, together with the quantities I would need, are as follows:HST - 6Class 08 - 1Class 37 - 2Class 47 - 1 (+ 3 to be acquired - 1 TTS example already bought)Class 58 - 1Class 56 - 1Class 31 - 9Hopefully, somebody at Hornby is 'listening'!Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I don't think it reasonable to expect that Hornby are monitoring this thread for content, only for conformance with forum rules. I suspect they don't monitor Wishlists either, but Adam may have some advice. There used to be a form for this on the website, can't now see it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamDavid Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I would hope Hornby are monitoring this site, and taking note of all content.Companies spend a small fortune on market research to help them plan their future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I don't think it reasonable to expect that Hornby are monitoring this thread for content, only for conformance with forum rules. I suspect they don't monitor Wishlists either, but Adam may have some advice. There used to be a form for this on the website, can't now see it though.If you want to suggest products go to Contact Us at the bottom of the page then select Product Suggestion add your details and suggestion. I'm pretty sure that any suggestions are ignored unless you use this form or the Wishlist section. People put suggestions in all sections of this forum, Thomas, Railmaster, General etc. and it would be unfair to expect Hornby to have to read all of them just to find one, especially as this is supposed to be for us not for them. Just my view. Good luck any way 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Thanks WTD, went to Contact Us and missed Product Suggestion category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 It's quite well hidden. I found it by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 It's quite well hidden. I found it by accident. Well hidden - as in its the first selection on a mandatory pull down list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Ah maybe so RAF but the address used to be on a link at the top of the forum so now it is hidden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Agreed WTD, along with a great many other things I used to be able to trip over on this site like the track geometry diagram (still there but hiding in Support), the full list of CV definitions (gone) and some other stuff I can't remember as its so long since I saw it. Back to the OP and recent discussion - having got this list of desirable TTS retro kits - the 64 thousand dollar question is - How much would you pay for the decoder, speaker and enclosure, in a bubble pack (or similar) with some instructions bespoke to each and every loco on the TTS catalogue list. I'm not talking generic steamdiesel TTS decoder kits here, just straight forward after market replacements for specific TTS locos already on sale. My advice is be very careful how you answer this as Mr Hornby's Marketing Bean Counter may well be watching this thread and if you show willing to pay over the odds for them, I am sure he will sell them to you at that inflated price, so pitch your estimated price as realistic as you see it. My guess is 30GBP for a part numbered replacement for TTS installation as listed on any current TTS loco service sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Raf, in mr Mc Enroes words, you cannot be serious. I dont belive this will ever happen, but if it did. it will not be for £30..... Still, i have been proved wrong before. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Now if you were addressing me RAF, my answer would be that I wouldn't give a penny for an OO sound loco of any type. I really do think they sound aweful and are just a gimmick. However O gauge, particularly diesel, would be different. I wouldn't buy one but would certainly accept one as a gift. I do have an HO USA steam loco with sound but don't run it because I can't turn it off. The whistle is the only sound that is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81F Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I have to admit being very impressed by my TTS Hall but the price is such that I doubt if I would retro fit many of my locos However, if I were I'd go for One or two Halls two stars (though I'd probably have to make do with a Castle sound) A GWR 0-6-0 of msome kind possibly intended for a pannier, howeverI'd probably stick it in my Bachmann 2251 with ROD tender. 2 kings if they could be fitted in the older loco drive type one for each of GWR 2-8-0s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choralc Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 When the survey hits 100 in one of the catagories I will be sure to send the results to Hornby under the Product suggestion heading unless I die first. 😛 Keep the requests coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choralc Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 From Hornby email released 12 hours ago: Sounds fantastic - TTS Sound DecodersIn response to your requests, we're pleased to announce that we will be releasing stand-alone TTS sound decoders from summer 2017. Retailing at £39.99, the decoders will be available for ten different locomotives: - steam A3, A4, Tornado, King Class, Castle Class - diesel Class 31, 37, 47, 60 and 67. Look out for further detail in a future edition of The Engine Shed. My wife says that I am allowed to say to all the naysayers: "Nah-nah-na-nah-nah!" Okay apologies for my immaturity to anyone offended. I am so pleased at this announcement from Hornby. Am looking forward to fitting my three Castles with sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choralc Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 From a Hornby email 12 hours ago part of duplicate posting held for moderation as it contains the pic from the email: Sounds fantastic - TTS Sound DecodersIn response to your requests, we're pleased to announce that we will be releasing stand-alone TTS sound decoders from summer 2017. Retailing at £39.99, the decoders will be available for ten different locomotives: - steam A3, A4, Tornado, King Class, Castle Class - diesel Class 31, 37, 47, 60 and 67. Look out for further detail in a future edition of The Engine Shed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilux59721707820819 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Great news about the TTS Sound decoders becoming available as a stand alone item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Just goes to show that Hornby, have indeed listened to the clamour. Well done to one and all. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDS Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Well Done choralc for pursuing this and for the comprehensive lists you have compiled. It is not easy as I know well from my own experiences of compling a list of 'Dates' for the LD sweep or a list of 'Desirable Features'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Hattons now listing at £36. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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