dcc ready

[squipper]

 the wife had bought me a Bagnell diesel shunter (R3283) from amazon for xmas as stated was dcc ready , when opened yesterday it turns out it's not although it was advertise as dcc ready  . So can i convet it to dcc

[96RAF]

DCC Ready means it has a socket to which you must install a decoder to make it DCC Fitted when it will be able to run under DCC control.

 

DCC Ready is a poor turn of phrase adopted by some manufacturers that makes folk think it is RTR on DCC, when it isn’t.

 

But looking at Hattons advert for R3283 they confirm the Railroad model whilst compatible with DCC is not provided with a socket.

Rob

[Chrissaf]

So can I convet it to DCC?

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Hattons advertise R3283 as being 'DCC Compatible' which means there is no DCC decoder socket as you have already identified. DCC Compatible means that it is compatible with having a decoder added via 'hard wiring' or by fitting your own socket. Subject to space being available for the decoder you choose to put in it.

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[squipper]

HI the wife had got from amazon 

• DCC Ready
• Pristine Finish
• Hornby Railroad Model
• PO Livery Bagnall Shunter Locomotive
• 00 Gauge Model

 she bought it in good faith  but it runs great  on dc till i can get it and my other 2 locos chipped for sound 

 

                               

• DCC Ready
• Pristine Finish
• Hornby Railroad Model
• PO Livery Bagnall Shunter Locomotive
• 00 Gauge Model

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• PO Livery Bagnall Shunter Locomotive
• 00 Gauge Model

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[Fishmanoz]

They should certainly not be calling this DCC Ready when it doesn’t have a socket.

 

But it will be simple to convert if you have basic soldering skills. Any cheaper decoder will be up to the job and you will only need to use the red and black wires which are connected to track voltage via the wheel pickup wires, and the orange and grey wires which are connected to the motor.  So you remove all connections to the motor and replace with the orange wire to one and the grey to the other.  You will then have one wire which goes to the pickups on one side, and another that goes to the pickups on the other.  Connect one to decoder red and the other to decoder black.  Discard any components (there will be at least a little yellow disc capacitor) left over and you are done.  Test before putting the body back on and if it runs the opposite way to what you expect, swap the orange and grey wires. 

[Gbh4]

That’s not right calling that DCC ready, or in Hatton’s case DCC compatible but no socket.

 

If it has no socket then it is not DCC ready. Also most non DCC ready trains can be retrofitted, so again that adds confusion.

[Yelrow]

Its certainly a tad misleading for the non railway purchaser. Hattons, will of course be only too happy to change it for one with a socket. They may even, given the confusion, be happy to fit a socket, at a discounted price.. If it was mine, i would give them a ring. 

[Howbi]

This has nothing to do with Hattons, the model was bought from Amazon......HB

[Yelrow]

Its those RAF, people, i blame. john.

[Howbi]

Careful, John, Rob flies over your chateau on his way back to Norfolk.......

[walkingthedog]

I think DCC compatible but no socket is a perfectly apt description. 

[Yelrow]

wtd, agree, for you/me, but twould mean nowt to Heather,  I think she would be likely to assume it would be immediately ok for me for DCC, which would not be the case. It would peut etre, be better with the words, will need a socket to be installed. Given my limited knowledge, it would have ended up on my DC layout.

[dynax]

that is the problem nowadays, nobody asks before buying, even a google search will give an idea of what the different terms mean, just a lack of common sense, sorry to be blunt, but that is the way it is,

[2e0dtoeric]

Everything that works on a small 12v dc motor is DCC compatible. Whether it is worth the effort is another question entirely!

[Yelrow]

It must happen regularly,. Dont think mrs average would be up to a google search before buying hubbys present. Heather, most certainly, would not be.

[96RAF]

I have had various stuff bought for me on understanding its for a model railway so its OK. Oh so wrong...if only they would ask first instead of surprising me with stuff I discretely have to get rid of.

Rob

[Yelrow]

what happens when they ask to see it, on their next visit

[2e0dtoeric]

In this family, we buy our own presents - that way we get what we really want, not what someone else THINKS we want! 😛

[walkingthedog]

I told my lot to not buy any model railway stuff for me. I do that myself. Once I got a Rails gift voucher because I just couldn’t think of anything I wanted. I generally say don’t get me anything at all I need nothing, but an Amazon or book voucher is always very useful if they insist. If somebody does get me something I really don’t want then they won’t see it when the come round. 

[96RAF]

If they ask to see anything John I tell them I took it home - the other home - depending upon where I am when they ask.

Rob

[olly]

Why not just hard wire the DCC decoder Hornby have this page about DCC fitting and 040 https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/hornby-dcc/decoder-installation-guides/standard-0-4-0-decoder-installation-guide/

[Fishmanoz]

That guide is dreadful and drastically over complicates matters by assuming the motor is mounted with its contacts facing down towards the chassis so must be removed to convert. In my experience of converting such locos, the contacts face up so there is no need to remove the motor. Further, it suggests replacing the capacitor and this is neither necessary nor desirable. Now refer back to my simple instructions at the bottom of page 1 of this thread and that is all that is needed. 

 

That guide has has been wrong for years now.  Don’t know how long it is since any 0-4-0 had the motor mounted contacts down.