JJ73 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Good so far...🙂🚂🚂🚂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Quite liked the vaporising steam unit.Curiously the sound unit in the Lord Nelson seemed a lot better than that in use now - close to 8 chuffs per revolution as it should be.Unfortunate that the water only permitted 2 minutes' 'steam vapour' if I remember - that's nothing wrt a normal run.I suppose the upcoming W1 will have a lot more room for a bigger reservoir.Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Cat is well and truly out of the bag about the atomising steam unit. The running time target is nearer 20 minutes, so I guess that take was early doors in the project. The problem is each module will be bespoke to a particular R-range, and tied to factory sound, so very unlikely that there will ever be a generic retro-fit unit. The basic water feature misting unit tech has been around a long time, just held back from 00 locos until the parts, in particular the control circuitry, were miniaturised enough to fit at cheap enough cost.TTS improves at each release - much more to come. More than that I cannot say, but you noted the improved sound quality and will have noted last week they showed a new speaker and custom enclosure. ESU do a similar size speaker with a customisable enclosure in the meantime. Roads and Rails is currently flogging them at a bargain price of a couple of quid apiece if you buy four. Or you can buy the basic speaker and make your own plasticard box for it.Maybe the 2022 range announcement will fill in any other secrets that the program doesn’t let slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Great update.Thanks.They've chuffin' well got to get their chuffs better!!I remember LN when announced chuffing 7 at ~10mph and 3 at 60+ equivalent per revolution - that would seriously do my nut in!!Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine shed 1 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 @morairamike.Like you have said the fire has been a big problem for lots of TV channels in the UK Inc bbc channels and ch5 so much so thay have been in trouble with the disability charities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkRedCape Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I’ve been wondering why the channels that usually have subtitles don’t seem to have them anymore. Been clicking them on and off to see if I’ve accidentally turned them off.Mystery solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Yesterday I saw an announcement during a commercial break saying that 'subtitles' would be returning shortly. No specific timeframe was quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 There is an apology that comes up at the beginning of the program about sub titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 As to the steam unit, I think I would prefer to buy it ready fitted anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I think if they can create a generic, or series of generic 'this-fits-that' vaporising units, the next thing is to optimise the water capacity.As it's cold vaporised water, I presume this is quickly condensing, and that includes on the tracks - will we be getting active sanders as well?Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yozzer Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I have watched the first three episodes with interest and have found them engaging, but i do have one complaint, in all three a product is discussed but none give the timeline involved from discussion to product release. I know from discussions at the various shows i have been fortunate to attend that we are talking anywhere from six months to two or three years particularly if new tooling is required but no sense of this is given in the show, or at least to date. It is possible a later episode may discuss this but for now a non-model railway enthusiast may not realise just how much effort is put into producing a model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 The show commenced recording over a year ago so obviously it would be looking at future products which at the time were secret, so there was a cloak of confidentiality over the show contents. At the time I don’t even suppose they had a firm production schedule as some of the product might not even make production.We have seen some future products showcased like the new speakers and the atomising steam unit and no doubt there will be other revelations as the episodes are shown.The big reveal of course is the January 2022 product range launch which will hopefully give us more information and timescales to production for these new items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I use these from ROADS & RAILS a lot better better than the round speaker that is fitted on TTS Chip.They fit nicely in the smoke box as well & double the volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ73 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Still enjoying the series - keep it up Hornby!!! 🙂🚂🚂🚂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Sam was busy trying for a Superspeed A4 ... putting 30V through it ... length of track just wasn't long enough - should have put it in the garden or something with a few carriages ...Agreed with JJ, quite entertaining.RAF would have enjoyed this one? A Spit, even viewing a Clipped Wing, and a Hawker Hunter no less!Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I like the later Mk Spitfire with the bubble canopy. A five bladed prop with a Griffon behind it tells of the ultimate versions. There was one of each parked up in the hangar at Cambridge for a while and when I walked guests round the works we always diverted through that hangar.Odd how it appeared to be Simon’s Hunter when in fact it was bought privately by Llyndon, who is keeping his head down in this series. They will need a bit of steelwork installing if they want to mount it on top of Hornby Towers.I thought Sam’s A4 malarkey was a waste of film and may have encouraged younger members to try similar, possibly with dire results.Nice to see other folk bodging things - I am not alone.Did you notice how the whole of Hornby appears to be chaotic, desks and work benches just like mine, shelves full of stuff I may never get round to, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I agree with 96RAF the article with Sam was a waste of time. It was also misinformation, raising the voltage to 20 volts should not blow the "breakers" in a domestic house supply. I am even more surprised by Sam lowering his credibility by doing it. More likely that the variable power supply that Sam was using had an internal mains fault. As for the guy trying to fix the EMU it didn't look like he knew what he was doing. Generally to get those bogies out, I normally carefully pull in the top tabs with a pair of long nosed pliers and push down, but you have to do it very carefully, levering against any bit of plastic on a Hornby loco is bad news and he should know that. I often wonder if these events are staged for TV, like when I was watching the Brooklands program and the guy didn't know which spanner to use. Trouble is events like that put me off watching the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM6 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I have to agree that the Sam’s Trains section was an absolute waste of time.I bet the two staff in the repair section at Margate will be swamped by burnt out motors and decoders from people emulating his antics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samfieldhouse Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I find it quite hard watching - not as bad as the Model Railway Challenge, but cringeworthy nonetheless.It's nothing to do with Hornby, but the manner in which the production values frame the protagonists and us, the community; the false suspense, excessive hyperbole, caricature-ification of people - I feel it sets us up to be mocked by any audience that isn't part of the community it's focussed on.Instead of being engaging and accessible, i feel its framed in a way that sets the modelling community apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 samfieldhouse I agree with you entirely I was thinking exactly that after the program. Once you start dealing in DCC with sound decoders and controllers it becomes a relative complex hobby. We all know if you put more volts on a motor it will go faster, it is just how long before it blows up that is the unknown factor. Even wiring up a straight DC layout has its issues, especially with points and isolating sections. I watched that Brooklands program, as I say I watched a guy trying to work out which spanner to use on a vintage motorcycle, anyone who repairs classic motobikes knows that the only problem area for spanners is around 1969 to 1970 when the industry was changing over from whitworth to AF. Trouble is some people think it makes good television.Watching the program it appears there is very little cross fertilisation between different designers which probably explains why a good mechanical feature on one loco design doesn't seem to get implemented on the others. I still can't believe that they don't use a standard motor between models. Yes I know they won't always fit, but in many cases with a bit of effort they could make it so, it would probably also increase reliability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Agreed about the motors Colin.I reckon they could get away with two basic motors, low power, high power, each with single ended or double ended shafts, so four variants.If these were quality motors, instead of the cheap and bin-it variety, that were capable of some maintenance with as a minimum replacement brushes and springs then reliability of the overall loco would rise accordingly and return to works for warranty repairs would reduce.Such motors were used in Monogram slot cars in the 60/70s and can still be sourced to date, so not a major logistics problem for Hornby to implement.Some specific winding specs would be required to suit locos rather than slot cars, but all very possible.Revel Pittman and then early Scalextric used a variant of the Airfix / X0 series motors.Typical slot car motor with screws holding the can to end plate, replaceable springs and brushes as well as shaft bearings.Come on Hornby make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Well, apart from all the negativity, I thought the Program was in part entertaining, informative and interesting showing ordinary folk doing what they do in various aspects of modelling. It is what it is and I, like thousands of others, look forward to the upcoming episodes.....thinking_face.......HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Agreed with Howbi.Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I thought the program wasn’t bad, nice to see some faces involved in the production of our favourite models.The young lads model looked very good considering his age and experience and I’m sure he’s only going to get better with time.Has for Sam well I think I’ll leave that one..Look forward to next week’s episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulali Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I love the series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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