Engine shed 1 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Just a quick query if I used a dcc engine on a analogue layout will it work and also if the engine had sound will the sound work on analog layout thanks in advance for all your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter 1707822591 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 If the decoder is DC enabled then ITT should run .you will have no way of knowing if you are DC only .some sound decoders have some basic sounds on dc but you will not have full access to enable them all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 It depends on a lot of things. If the DCC only bit is set CV29 (I think that is the number) then it won't. I found the Elite sets this when you decide to renumber your loco. If you keep it at default of 3 then it should. If it is a TTS decoder then it won't run at all on DC. The other thing to be careful of, if it is an old HM or equivalent controller (ie) not a modern type then the regulation on these is not very good and it tends to blow up the decoder. If it is a new Hornby one or equivalent that is totally electronic then no issue. I have been known to test DCC loco this way on DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine shed 1 Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 OK that's great thanks for all you replys so quickly I will have to have a think about weather to get any dcc engines then as it sound very if or may be or possibly that it will work but not definitely thank you once again everyone ps my controller is a guagemaster analogue one so a modern controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Running a DCC equipped loco on DC whilst possible is not really recommended for the following reasons:a decoder needs a certain voltage to boot up, so every time you stop and start it you are effectively switching the decoder off then rebooting it. The decoder then (if DC running is enabled in CV29) has to decide there is no DCC signal present and that it has to switch itself to DC mode.at lower track voltages the decoder is likely to become unreliable and running may well be erratic.You can however run in a decoder equipped loco on DC as you are applying a steady voltage for a while, then likely reversing that for a further period, so the decoder stabilises and does what it is designed to do on DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine shed 1 Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 Thanks once again for your replys the reason I was asking is because I like the idea of sound but I am running dc at the moment but think I will hold off till I go dcc thanks once again for all your help and advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1707822023 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Thanks once again for your replys the reason I was asking is because I like the idea of sound but I am running dc at the moment but think I will hold off till I go dcc thanks once again for all your help and adviceI suppose you have seen the sound modules that are powered by a small batttery and the decoder senses train movement and makes the sounds? The advantage is that you can easily move them between locos. There is one for steam and one for diesel and they work fairly well. They can be fitted inside the loco or in a wagon or coach just behind. Search for the following on Youtube:Sound chips for DC or DCC: No wiring or soldering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Henny Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Go to the Train-Tech web site, as these sound modules are made by T-T.Mod note - TT was bought out by Gaugemaster but both websites appear to be live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 There is also the Hornby app controlled HM | DC system which offers limited sounds broadcast from the handheld device not the loco for steam, diesel and electric loco types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMac1707817969 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 You could just play sound files on your phone if the sound is not synced to the actual movement of the loco it would be easier. Lots available on t'Internet like herehttp://www.greatwestern.org.uk/sounds.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Dublo2 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 An extra bit of info - the current Hornby (8-Pin) TTS sound decoders have DC running disabled by default, so no only will you not have sound but won't have movement eitherThis may change when the 18 & 21-PIN decoders appear, although that is yet to be confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Set in the West Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Not like I know much, but I don't know, maybe, or maybe not. It could be a bit of trial and error. The other/previous responses might help out more.LittleOldPug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine shed 1 Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 Thanks once again for everyones advice I like the idea of the train tec solution we're I can put the battery operated board in any loco I like will definitely look into those thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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