Ivans Rails Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Hello All,I want to add a turntable to the layout I am working on for my TT setup however I do not want to break the bank getting a roco or fleischmann. Any suggetions another company that sells a TT scale or one I could convert to TT?Thank You,Ivan Layout incase anyone is interested; the turntable to planned for the 2x4 section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Henny Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Be aware that your proposed layout design has a WYE Reverse Loop in it which can generate a short circuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Modellbahn Union offer a manual turntable, but I think it's quite a short deck at 135mmhttps://www.modellbahnunion.com/Spur-TT/TT-Drehscheibe-16m.htm?a=article&ProdNr=MU-TT-B00085&p=99557There are some artisan kits out there, but like the Roco unit they're not cheap. Try a google search for "drehscheibe spur TT"The asking price for ancient Triang TT turntables is shocking!Maybe Peco will re-scale their turntable for TT:120 in due course? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivans Rails Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 Be aware that your proposed layout design has a WYE Reverse Loop in it which can generate a short circuit. Sorry the 2D give a bad repersentation of the layers. Here is a 3D render. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Off topic for turntables but is that 2x4 section the limit of your sidings or will you be extending as indicated by the overhanging rails.If that is the limit then consider making those sidings as long as possible. I have erred before in my plans by having platforms that only took two carriages so were useless for purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9020 Nimbus Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 135 mm is about equivalent to 54 ft in "real life" so not suitable for large tender locos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Or…. As mentioned when someone said about the potential issues with a return loop as a Wye, you could actually incorporate a reverse loop and then you can turn an entire train (I have done this) you will need to get the wiring right but it’s not hard in either DC or DCC. Triangles are a common way on the real railway to turn locos or complete trains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishmail Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Could you use the Peco H0m turntable which will be the same track gauge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_watts1 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just looked at the Peco HOm turntable, nice but it's a bit small, 155mm, that's not big enough for most locos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Matchett Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I have the Peco turntable on my 00 layout. But I am also thinking about TT120 and have pre-ordered. But there are only a few things on that turntable which would characterise it as H0/00. The bridge track, of course, but you could presumably modify it to accept the TT120, dropping the whole assembly, or laying the new 120 track at an appropriate level. Then leave out the railings or find some 1:120 ones. You would then have a massive TT120 turntable!Incidentally, I have fitted the Locomotech indexed motorisation to the Peco item and have found it to be quiet, accurate and cost-effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Did someone say somewhere that the TT:120 A1/A4 are about 190mm long? I recently picked up from ebay the sorry remains of a Heljan / Con-Cor N scale turntable for £11 inc. postage, purely to see if there's any chance it could be usable with a bit of work. It's just the well and the bridge. It represents an American type long enough to take their big locos, so it's obviously longer than the Peco N turntable and about 20mm longer than the Fleischmann one I use on my N layout. It's a basic manual turntable kit probably only £20 or so when new (possibly no longer made?) to similar price to a Peco N kit. The deck is 223mm and a piece of Tillig TT track fits nicely for width on the bridge. It has two concentric copper rings underneath ready to carry power to the track, and teeth for a drive mechanism even if only a simple manual crank. Interesting that there's no provision to reverse the track polarity as the copper rings aren't split, so that will have to be dealt with another way (DCC folk would just use a reverse-loop module). A project for after my N layout's next show in April. Hopefully will have an Eastener by then :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge1965 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Looking good... I did post and then removed it.. Glad u posted.. I just did a quick man look at the "tech Specs" for a good few of the loco's and the longest one i saw was 197mm. I was going to go OO ,but maybe need to follow suit.. Are they rare to find? Are there other makes? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Look for Heljan or Con-Cor B646. It's an old kit, as I say probably no longer made. Google found a couple in the US and some "out of stock" references from the likes of Hattons. I think just keep an eye on ebay....N gauge turntables that I know of include Peco, Fleischmann, Arnold, Heljan, Atlas, Kato, Tomytec, Walthers, Bachmann. I don't think Minitrix do one other than as a weird combined traverser/turntable unit. The Fleischman and Arnold fully electric tables are great but expensive, the Fleischmann is 205mm deck (I think Arnold is similar). Fleischmann do make a simpler manual turntable. The Atlas is a US type with a fully covered deck and is only 190mm diameter.Bachmann's is only 140mm bridge.The Kato is another expensive electrically operated unit, and the bridge is only 160mm. I think the Tomytec item is similarWalthers has a long enough deck 247mm but is another very expensive electric unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB51 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 @ Ivan are these double slips or cross overs? R- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge1965 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 N gauge turntables that I know of include Peco, Fleischmann, Arnold, Heljan, Atlas, Kato, Tomytec, Walthers, Bachmann. I don't think Minitrix do one other than as a weird combined traverser/turntable unit.The Fleischman and Arnold fully electric tables are great but expensive, the Fleischmann is 205mm deck (I think Arnold is similar). Fleischmann do make a simpler manual turntable.Walthers has a long enough deck 247mm but is another very expensive electric unit.Thanks for info.. I don't mind paying for decent stuff and quality.I would like DCC is possible. Will look at Fleischman and Walthers.. Or convert a OO to work for TT size.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 @dodge I suppose the trouble with either of those options is they're already fitted with N track on the bridge, so you'd have to remove that first (quite a bit of hacking).If you're going for an expensive option then I would have said you might as well just buy the Roco TT turntable anyway if you can find one. Very very expensive at £400+ though, and it's bridge is only 183mm. You might just get the overall wheelbase of the A1 onto it? Somewhere on here there was a post with a photo showing the A1 against the Roco BR 18, presume that fits on their own turntable?Having re-read details about the Fleischmann N turntable that's also only 183mm bridge (not 205mm as I said before). Clearly they are based on the same mechanism (Roco and Fleischmann are part of the same group nowadays).Roco 35900 Gauge TT Electric turntable for track gauge TT modellbahnshop-lippe.comI will persevere with my cheapskate project when I get the time :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge1965 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Thanks for the info.. Will keep looking for the 200mm at least. Maybe then for now the OO is the scale and one to try. Like you say, it might take some bodge work.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Here you go, knew I'd seen an A1 on the Roco turntable :) Bottom of the page. With the lovely BR 18 behind (I have that one in N)The Scotsman arrived Germany :: Hornby Hobbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge1965 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Here you go, knew I'd seen an A1 on the Roco turntable :) Bottom of the page. With the lovely BR 18 behind (I have that one in N)The Scotsman arrived Germany :: Hornby Hobbies Thank you so much, i did have a look, but failed.. One option to look at.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Thought I'd pose my A4 on the old Heljan turntable I posted about above. Plenty of room :) I've cut a length of Peco track for it (and ground off the lower code 55 rail section on the very ends so it looks better).Another project for the pile, when I can get round to it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge1965 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Sorry please remind me which Heljan turntable you bought?Looks perfect... Are you going DCC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 @dodge as per earlier reply on Feb 2nd: Heljan or Con-Cor B646.DCC not on my priority list but might happen, will have to see. The parts I have with mine create two continuous concentric rings to pass power to the bridge, therefore it will need polarity reversal if turned 180 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivans Rails Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 @ Ivan are these double slips or cross overs? R- Those are crossovers to complete the hill loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge1965 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Sorry missed the make and model bit from your earlier post...Thanks for info... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Twa Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 What about this onehttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255801723178?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=kiIYz-X1TSq&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=6a14f9wTT_i&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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