81F Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 In a moment of insanity I recently bought a Triang Lord Westward in very good condition for around £25 plus p&p. The only damahe was a missing step from the tender which I have fixed by swapping the tender chassis for one from a green GWR hall tender. It seems like a bargain by ebay standards but what do others think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Nothing insane about it, if you like it and can afford it go for it! :-)It is dangerous to judge value by ebay prices, it is a very uncertain and volatile market. Much depends upon who is bidding, and how sensible they are. Few bidders often means you get a bargain, but if you have one of those idiots with more money than sense bidding the price can go sky high. Ramsey's guide (which is only a rough guide but does help to give a pointer) lists an unboxed "Lord Westwood" in excellent condition at £25, so you are about on the money. My unboxed HD 2207 0-6-0T I bought yesterday was labelled at £18, but (a) someone had swapped the couplings to Triang, (b) the paintwork and decals were 'rubbed', and © it was unboxed. Another similar but original, mint and boxed was on offer for £75. Ramsey's guide lists this as £50 clean unboxed and £70 mint boxed, so I am happy.People run away with the idea that old Hornby Dublo is rare and valuable, but the opposite is in fact true, there were clean unboxed 'Silver King's and 'Duchess of Montrose's being offered for £45, and these were all in good working order. Ramsey's list them at £100, so it shows how unreliable guides of this nature can be. Triang is generally even cheaper too. and you can often pick up servicable locos for less than £20 the smaller ones for less than a tenner, and carriages for less than £7. Certain rare pieces can be pricey but unless you are a dedicated collector you will not actually want these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 hi, i have full set of HORNBY DUBLO, 3 rail, except for 2, and the valuable ones are more the southern tanks, and little diesels. I run mine all the time, so probably devaluing, but i read somewhere that they better with regular use. Its things like theO gauge buildings in boxes, that fetch good money, mine are boxed, but on show. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 It's about the money for an unboxed Lord Westwood, however they are now a serious collectors item so it's worth seeking out a box for it. The trade uses Ramsay's guide as a benchmark as it offers a stable retail price, ebay prices fluctuate too much to be of any use for finding out prices of things. I've put mint locos on there that have gone for 99p in the past and for a fortune at other times!Latest acquistions, a pile of third radius curves, 6 standard points new and unused at a bargain price, to diamond crossings, a Hornby Queen Mary Red Class D tank loco, a mint rival make B1, D.pol(later Hornby) N2 boxed mint, Tri-ang/Hornby motor brushes, a pile of Hornby empty boxes, some N gauge wagons by the main maker of them, Hornby Early Norstand Mineral wagon (now getting rare in early form), Hornby BR 20ton Brake Van, two big boxes of Tri-ang-Hornby EM2 pantographs, and earring drops!The other half makes earrings etc., the earring drops will be fitted with highly polished old stock unflanged driving wheels, and go on the other half's stall as novelty limited edition jewellery, keeps her busy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPA Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I just had delivered " The Heritage Rail Express" train pack. I was not going to buy the Duke 71000 because of some unfavourable reports. All I can say is that it looks very nice, especially close coupled. The BR MK1's in the pack are more than adequte in their repesentations of the real thing but I cannot see why the water feed pipes are moulded. Even the old HORNBY DUBLO SD coaches had wire pipes and that was 50 years ago. It is sad that the design clever method really takes the models back to the early China redos of models such as the Brits that were made around 2000 ie the revamped UK models. I can say though, that Hornby have done a nice job with minimal addon parts to be broken off in transit and the overall look is good despite my reservations on some aspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I have just received another 'C' class 31579, from that shop near Binns Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 The fact about scale / gauge discrepancy is certainly true. And the fact that the model railway media (magazines and forums) are 'calling the shots' has greatly influenced the model railway market, but not all of it is necessarily bad. Personally I am happy to accept a lesser degree of fine (and vulnerably delicate) detail but I am glad that proportionally the models are getting more accurate and the painting and lettering is so much better nowadays. The variety available is also much better, not perfect of course but that is always going to be a problem and will depend upon which group shouts loudest.Tornado, DoG and CotN are of no interest to me, they represent specialist types that I will not find justified in a mainly Southern based collection, but recent models of MN, WC/BB, N15, V, Q1, N, C, Maunsell carriages and the promised 2Hal have more than justified my support for this hobby and the commercial manufacturers.A railway model is all about creating an image. few if any of us if any can have a layout with scale length trains and scale curves, so the detail really only comes into its own in glass display cases. Footsteps and vacuum pipes have to be removed to clear bogie swing and a huge plastic coupler protruding from under a buffer beam.Nuff sed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooped Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Two bargains off the bay. Hornby LNER A1 'Great Northern' and B team D11/2 Hobbie Elliott. Very happy with both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbo2 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 The 2008 Collectors Club 0-4-0 Pullman shunter, which I've converted to DCC. Couldn't resist it, good runner as well for an 0-4-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 SE&CR No 271 and SR A593 arrived in the post this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 One of my latest procurements is a TMC converted and enhanced 46229 “Duchess of Hamilton.” The original “semi” was Hornby’s R2231 46228 “Duchess of Rutland.” It has been left in lined green livery with early BR tender crest but etched name plates and front number plate have been added, plus a few other items such as real coal. I had to remove the front steps to avoid curve derailments and widened the front bogie back to back measurement to clear my pointwork more securely.It has also been fitted with Olivia’s sound and working front express passenger lamps. The coal shovelling sound, whether called up specifically or working randomly, is accompanied by firebox flicker.I had to tweak its functions and CVs a bit, such as reducing volume dramatically. It’s a great loco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Hi GraskieThat sounds (excuse the pun) a nice loco. I'm still waiting on Hornby back-orders, so nothing new for sometime - at least the bank balance will be ready for the onslaught. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 R3160XS West Country Class - Wincanton - with sound arrived today - very nice. Ordered January 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPA Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Glad your pleased with it atlong last. I have just got 4 out of 6 BR (exLMS) Porthole coaches. They are brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Having said on another thread that I don't have any Hornby plank wagons, I do now. Somebody bought me the British Insulated & Cables Ltd wagon as a belated birthday present. A change of couplings and a bit of weathering it looks pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Well, I've just been testing and tweaking my new Fowler 4F 0-6-0 fitted with working front lamps and sound. I would have preferred the converted Hornby model, but beggars can't be choosers, not that I am one, of course.Runs great, sounds great. Just a shame it doesn't have tender wheel pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDS Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I would like my latest aquistion to be a 'Rebuilt Royal Scot ' that is either DCC ready, DCC fitted or a DC one that is convertable.I don't know if there is such a model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I managed to get another late crest 'C' for re-numbering. This one from our local model railway dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I have two of them, RDS. They are Hornby R 2824 46100 "Royal Scot" DCC ready and R 6828X 46102 "Black Watch" DCC on board, both hardly run. I would love one with sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPA Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 That company was not far from me in Prescot and Helsby. The Prescot site is now a vast new shopping area and some waste land (possibly now built on). Nearly everyone in Prescot worked at the "BI" (BICC). Since the UK wire industry seems to have died a death, from cables to plain wire, many factories in my area are now gone and knocked down. Even the RL team is now the Wolves instead of the Wires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDS Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Thanks Graskie. I can't believe I had missed these. Maybe I had just been looking at Blue Boxes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDS Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Sorry Graskie, another question: Are either of these models tender driven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Hornby haven't made tender drive for quite a while and I dont think Graskie runs old locos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDS Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 OK, Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 No, you're quite right, WTD. I got rid of all my tender drive locos some time ago now. By the way, RDS, there are several other rebuilt Royal Scots which have been made by Hornby. A quick check on eBay or http://www.hornbyguide.com/ (cut and paste into your browser) should enable you to see the full range, none of which I don't think were ever tender driven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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