Wobblinwheel Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 I think it's really cool looking, in a tacky, "Art-Deco" kinda way. Really fancy on the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 More great images you have there howbiman, Wobblinwheel and RAF96. All pictures are amazing and stunning! 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayarpino Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Thanks for that, Wobbly, I love streamlined engines.We have one left in Belgium, the 'legendary' (again in Belgium) Type 12 Atlantic (4-4-2), the last steam engine built in this country in 1938-1939. The SNCB-NMBS (National Railway Company of Belgium) was mainly used on the Ostend boat trains. It is nicknamed the "Patineuse" (skater) by the footplatemen owing to its tendency to slip a couple of times when moving out of stations with a heavy load.The engine on the photograph is the sole surviving example of this small class and is now permanently housed at TrainWorld, the new national train mueseum in Brussels that is wel worth a visit. Some claim it has been given a total restoration, but I believe it is only cosmetic: why go through all the expense for a permanently static display? Why not use it to haul specials then? The preserved Type 12 locomotive exhibited in Train World, Brussels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB51 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 What a fantastic looking engine. Thanks for posting Rayarpino. R- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Wow, that looks weird! I've never seen a locomotive that looks like that before. It looks like a tankamotive! Looks like a tank has been modified into a locomotive! 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Looks great. I've seen pictures before but not as good as that one. Is there a normal looking loco under the streamlining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 There may well be. The shape of the streamlinimg looks as if it has been placed on a normal loco, that isn't streamlined, to make streamlined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Well yes Jacob but like me you don't know either. Rayarpino maybe you can give me an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I agree. I am aloso going to do a bit of research of this loco of my own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Prat Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Iit brings to mind the Bulleid Air-Smoothed 'Schools' Exactly the same as an A4, and Coronation, it will be a normal loco i.e. a boiler, wheels , etc just like any other steam loco. The streamlining is just a casing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I agree PP but it looks as though if you removed the 'streamlining' the loco underneath would be ready to run with no extra work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81F Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I had thje same problem with uploading pics on about the 15th but cleared up the following day but then couldn't today but will try again later. On an allied thread, i once had to take an Austrailian Colleague past Oxford Station several years ago. Stood in the siding was Flying Scotsman. I recall him being very supprised at seeing a Steam Loco, but I remember him asking if thet was THE REAL Flying Scotsman as it loked rather small! Having said that I think most of the rest of the worlds standard gauge is bigger than ours, just look at how big the coaches look against this Class 87 in Bulgaria - http://www.loco-photos.net/picture?/7986/category/35-2010_05_bulgaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Prat Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I agree PP but it looks as though if you removed the 'streamlining' the loco underneath would be ready to run with no extra work. I don't like streamlining anyway. Much prefer an honest, ugly loco that looks like a loco e.g Q6, WD etc. And Bulleids airsmoothed Schools was the pits - even for him!! You still can't beat a V2, can you! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81F Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 If you want an ordinary steam loco that has had stream lining stuck on it I suggest you look at the GWRs versions: Manornier castle, http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/images/0/08/Im1935SW-5005.jpg and king Henry VII http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/locomotive/images/8/88/GWR_King_Henry_VII_left_34_view.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161202035107. I remjember reading that these were as a result of the Publicity department applying pressure to the Loco department. The story goes that Collett smeared some plasticine over a paperweight of a GWR 4-6-0 and handed it to their drawing Office! - Can anyone corroborate this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 The GWR streamlining was a joke. Not exactly scientific. Why streamline something that looks so beautiful without it, and yes PP a V2 takes a lot to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblinwheel Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 Wow, that looks weird! I've never seen a locomotive that looks like that before. It looks like a tankamotive! Looks like a tank has been modified into a locomotive! 😆I hate to say it, but it kinda looks like some sort of INSECT! Not a bad thing, mind you....if you like bugs... I think maybe it could "grow on you" after a while. Like lice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 It does look like an insect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblinwheel Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share Posted June 26, 2017 Hypothetical: If the 611 were to be shipped to the UK, do you think the tracks could handle it? Wikipedia says it weighs 872,600 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 390+ tons!! Is that the loco, or the whole train?? A Gresley A4 goes 169 tons including tender. I know Yank trains were big, but that seems slightly excessive!! Maximum axle load on British Railways in steam days was about 22 tons, modern wagons can load to 25 tons all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo1707820979 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Loverly photos, but it's not as nice as a V2 😆Not very 'nice' when it landed on your house. Luckily I lived in Gloucester then, so 'only' bombs. (dates me a bit ! 😮 ) I don't recall if Gloucester Carriage and Wagon Works was hit - they were making tanks by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 It would have to get a fair lick of speed up to land on anybody's house wouldn't it PP, even though it looks like it's tearing along even when stationary 😆 Jimbo why are you talking about rockets when everybody else is talking about locos? 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo1707820979 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Thanks for that, Wobbly, I love streamlined engines.We have one left in Belgium, the 'legendary' (again in Belgium) Type 12 Atlantic (4-4-2), the last steam engine built in this country in 1938-1939. The SNCB-NMBS (National Railway Company of Belgium) was mainly used on the Ostend boat trains. It is nicknamed the "Patineuse" (skater) by the footplatemen owing to its tendency to slip a couple of times when moving out of stations with a heavy load. The preserved Type 12 locomotive exhibited in Train World, Brussels Great photos. Thankyou very much. The impression is of a giant scarab beetle and the curving lines put one in mind of the Pharaohs. Are you sure it wasn't from Egyptian Railways ? 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Prat Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 /media/tinymce_upload/3e03ca54849be2f9566eb87dbc064cd3.jpg Hi JimboThat's the V2 WTD and I were referring to - not the German rocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblinwheel Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 390+ tons!! Is that the loco, or the whole train?? A Gresley A4 goes 169 tons including tender. I know Yank trains were big, but that seems slightly excessive!! Maximum axle load on British Railways in steam days was about 22 tons, modern wagons can load to 25 tons all up.Axle load on the drivers of the 611 is listed as 72,000 pounds, with a tractive effort of 80,000 pounds. (According to Wikipedia). Also, both the Big Boy and the Allegheny weighed over a MILLION pounds, both engine and tender! Oh, and did I tell you the Union Pacific is restoring a Big Boy for excursions, due to be running in 2019? It is over 130 ft. long...sheesh...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo1707820979 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Thanks PP. I will be on the lookout for a good used V2 after seeing your picture. I guess my earlier post (no pun !) was just the product of a bit of nostalgia for my formative years in Gloucester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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