NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Hi, Can anyone tell my why it says on the Hornby The World of Thomas the Tank Engine R.104 Cattle Van, why it has the words 'TO BE RETURNED TO LEWIS', printed on the botom of the doors? There is nobody in Thomas called Lewis, so I really don't understand why this printed on this cattle van, both sides. Can somebody help? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB51 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Perhaps a place name rather than that of an individual? R- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Lewis is the place the van needs to be returned to not a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 No, place on Sodor called Lewis. I just can't understand why this on these rarish cream cattle wagons, from the 1980's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 @walkingthedog I have gathered that, but I don't understand why this is on a Thomas Cattle Wagon, when this isn't a person called Lewis, on the Island of Sodor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Does it say Lewis or Lewes. Hornby probably used an ordinary wagon that already had the writing on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 They were originally Southern Region cattle vans. Lewes is in east Sussex. They obviously repackaged them as Thomas wagons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 Ah, that could be the reason why. So what colour were they, in Southern Region livery, of the same type from the 1980's? If Hornby did repackage them though, in a Thomas box, why didn't they remove the 'TO BE RETURNED TO LEWIS' printing? That is just not needed on a Thomas cattle wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Because it is cheaper to leave it on. Why go to the trouble of removing it, wagons had all sorts of thing written on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 Because it does not look right on a Thomas product. At least it was removed on the R9203 Cattle Wagon, released in 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 That's it. I know what it looks like. I own three of these! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Who is to know the writing isn't right. In the book illustrations it might not have been obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 We talking about the Hornby wagon here, WTD. Not any book illustsrtions. The picture that howbiman has posted is a pucture of the wagon I am talking about, zoomed in, so you can read the printed that I am talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainlover23 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 No, place on Sodor called Lewis. I just can't understand why this on these rarish cream cattle wagons, from the 1980's.There were no cattle trucks in the 1980s either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Don't forget that wagons travelled all over the system from region to region. The Island of Sodor is the North Western Region of BR and there is a rail connection to Barrow in Furness across Walney Island for the interchange of traffic. (Refer to "The Thomas the Tank Engine Man " by Brian Sibley. ISBN0434969095) so it would be perfectly acceptable for wagons to appear bearing all maner of "Return to" branding so that the railway staff knew where to send it back to for another load when emptied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDS Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 ... Not any book illustrations ...Jacob, We know that the picture is of a wagon.WTD is suggesting that in the Thomas books, it may not have been obvious that there was writing on the wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainlover23 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I am slowly falling asleep and losing the will to live reading this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 Yes, it says Lewes, not Lewis! I must have been tired last night, when I wrote this. I am sorry for the incorrect information everyone. @LC&DR You are probably correct there. Hornby could have printed it on these cattle wagons, to add some play in it as a bit fun for adults and children, to pretend were they need to return to, when they travel to Sodor (The consumers' layout). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 No Jacob they printed it on the wagons because they are models of Southern Region wagons that would have been returned to Lewes after reaching their final destination. Hornby just used the wagons as they were for the Thomas Range as well. That's the reason. Nothing else, the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 Okay. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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