Nictor Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I have a couple of TTS loco's and I am very happy with them. I am thinking of buying some decoders and converting some of my other DCC chipped locos to TTS sound.I would have expected Hornby to have a sound file for each decoder here on the website. No joy. I have to go to YouTube and hope that someone has uploaded a video there.This seems like a classic case of the age old British manufacturing malaise. Good idea at a reasonable price and then abysmal marketing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I take it you mean samples so that you can preview the sounds you might be buying if you purchased a TTS decoder.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 @Nictor.........Good point, sample demos would be useful....... 😀...........HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictor Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 Yes a few sound samples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Are you after sound files to download? Or samples of a TTS chip on the this website so you can hear what a you might want to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainlover23 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Why would Hornby put a copy of the sound file on the web site for people to down load ????. Don`t forget it is not just a case of buying a chip and uploading the sound files on to it one has to buy a speaker as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Preview sounds so that you know what is available would be nice... I do think that is what is being requested, as the OP says that he can preview the sounds via third-party U-Tube uploads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamDavid Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 There are quite a few YouTube demonstrations, and some by Hornby.I don't think it is complete, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 As far as I understand it TTS is cheap buy it and plug it in. If you want down loadable sounds you need to buy the higher end chips and pay the extra. Yon can't have it all your own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 If you take all the posts and replies in context, Nictor has made it very clear he is referring to samples for the purpose of previewing the sounds before purchase..I can understand why Hornby don't provide previews of the sounds, because Hornby have spent money creating them and probably have intellectual rights of some kind to them. They would not want anyone to have the ability to free download them to install onto their own blank sound decoders (such as Loksound for example) which would also need specialist expensive programmers unavailable to the average modeller. The Loksound programmer is over a hundred pounds or more the last time I researched them. So not even a realistic option for DIY installation anyway. Anybody who is going to pay out for expensive programmers, is probably going to want better quality real recorded sounds. I believe many of the TTS sounds are electronically synthesised..One way that Hornby could make the preview of sounds pre-viewable on the Shop site but without the risk of them being pirated, would be to have a constant background talk-over laid over the top of the sound, that would make them completely unusable by someone with a pirating objective. The talk-over could be just a repeating loop statement of what the sound being previewed is..Some special effect sound sites "pond.com" for example (non railway) do something similar to preview sounds prior to paying to download them. The paid for versions obviously don't have the background talk-over in them and are downloaded in a higher quality digital sample bit rate. As an analogy, you preview them in SD (Standard Definition) but download them in HD (High Definition).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictor Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 Thanks for all the answers and sorry for the debate. Just wanted some sort of basic indication as to what each decoder sounds like. Changing all my locos to DCC sound and Hornby TTS is ideal for me as I am not a 'rivet counter' and don't want to spend huge sums of money on getting just the right sound for each specific loco. Quite happy to stick a class 20 one in my railcar if it sort of sounds right to me but would like to be able to sample all of them.i.e. I would buy three of one, four of another and so on if I was happy that that would fit in with what I wanted. TTS is great as you can probably get 3/4 for the price of one expensive one. I just want choo choo and chug chug noises that sound sorta right....lol. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 No need to apologise for the debate. As for the chips well if you like what you already have i cant see why you may be disappointed with any of the others. I would guess that most tts sound chipped loco's will have been put up on utube. Which would give you a idea of there sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I have Just used U-Tube to check on a King Class TTS decoder sounds... This is by Hornby (The Engine Shed), It does not have any talking, and goes through all the "spot" sounds...including the whistles. It is sound only, by the way....no moving pictures! Reccommended if Hornby could do the same for all theTTS decoders... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1ngr4y Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Hi Sarah,Thanks for the link to the TTS King. Having listened to it, I think it is near enough what I need for my LNER Thompson Class B1. I know that the B1 has two cylinders and the King has four, but the chuffing is very similar. It's only when you have a three-cylinder loco when the chuffs come in three's that you would notice a difference. So I've ordered one...Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 RayI put a TTS Hall in my B1 - same number of cylinders. I put a TTS King in my streamlined Coronation as there wasn’t a real one at the time. Again same number of cylinders.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 It would seem that most 4-cylinder locos exhaust at the same "chuff rate" as two cylinder locos... Two cylinders exhausting at the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 To add to this... I have today received my King Class TTS Decoder. It comes with a round speaker in an enclosure, a fitting ring, and screws! 😀 The Castle TTS decoder has a plain round speaker, no enclosure, fitting ring, or screws. (Not a problem, as mine went into a BM Dukedog! This comes with the enclosre in the tender, a fitting ring, and screws! 😉 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 A 2 cylinder engine will have four single beats, per one full wheel rotation. Wheres a four cylinder engine will have four double beats. Trouble is can a TTS sound decoder reproduce the double beat sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Can you tell how many revolutions the wheels are doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblinwheel Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I am a little concerned about the "chuffs-per-revolution" thing myself. I am interested in putting a TTS decoder system in one of my A4's, and wonder if it's anywhere CLOSE to six cuffs per rev. Some of the videos I've seen, sometimes it sounds closer to ONE! While this may not matter so much at high speed, it would be rather obvious at startup... and unacceptable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 @Wobbly........unfortunately there is no synchronisation in TTS decoders.........at walking pace you may get just 1 chuff per rev........at medium speed it becomes much more acceptable.........HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblinwheel Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 @Wobbly........unfortunately there is no synchronisation in TTS decoders.........at walking pace you may get just 1 chuff per rev........at medium speed it becomes much more acceptable.........HBThat's kind of odd, since the "A4" kit should represent a three-cylinder locomotive with approximately 80 inch drivers. They're all gonna have six chuffs-per-revolution. Why is that a problem? Is the chuff rate on all TTS decoders the same, regardless of the locomotive? At really slow speed, that would stick out like a sore.... thumb... the "3cylinder lope" is what makes the A4 sound unique, to me...! I'm afraid if that is indeed the case, I won't be buying one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Wobbly, they are budget sound decoders and you get what you pay for....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Wobbly, you may like to investigate the Econami range of sound decoders from Soundtraxx, readily available in US.......they are 21 pin decoders and are well specified with a selection of loco classes so you get the correct chuff........I have a UK version with a choice of UK locos which you may have to import....... US versions get some of those 'Big Boy' sounds etc..........HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblinwheel Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I did put an Econami decoder in my Union Pacific Challenger loco. The US version has a setting for three cylinders, but none of the whistles come close. I'd have to locate a UK version. I just didn't want to spend that much money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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