Cedric HK Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Had anyone owned a Big Boy in HO scale here? Most Big Boys are designed for 18-inch curves and I want to know if anyone tried to run it on radius 2 curves of hornby tracks. WOuld that work? Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 From memory R2 is 438mm which is 17.25”, so marginal in my opinion. Adverts I have seen say this loco is almost a metre long, so a considerable machine to get round corners even with dual articulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric HK Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 Sounds like a loco to avoid, I have most tracks on radius 3 or more, but with some curved points which is basically radius 2. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Cedric, for Heavens sake dont avoid in my view, the best loco around. I have 2 and they are superb.. Ok, so you may have to marginally adjust your layout, so did i, but. to watch one, in full chat, is a sight to behold. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellocoloco Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 @CedricHK Depends which one you are after.... Hornby don't have a minimum quoted on the Rivarossi page for the proposed 2019 release of 4014, but a quick search suggest you are correct for 18" for the Rivarossi model. MTH also suggest 18" and Athearn 22". The Trix Big Boy claims to handle 14".....Others are available. As suggested by Yelrow, make some adjustments - all your stock will look and operate better on larger radius curves, not just the BB. They look great and I've often looked at them and thought..........mmm maybe. @Yelrow Which BB do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Rivarossis, 2 4007 i think , will look next time I am up. Also have the next one down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric HK Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 @ellocolocoProposed 2019 release you said? I was unaware and now I might consider getting one if the price is right. I was looking at another BB done by a US company starting with "B" and it looks brilliant, sadly it is quite expensive too.The only radius 2 sections I have on my layout is two curved points, which are standard hornby points. https://imgur.com/a/Ufgj7Af @Yelrow do you think you could test the BB on some Hornby standard curved points? I would love to know if they work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Neither of mine were new, and cost £115 each. Triple that, for new ones. There are plenty of Rivarossi ones about. Trix and Marklin, also make them. I am very content with the Rivarossi ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellocoloco Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 @CedricHK If you look under the Rivarossi new releases on this website you'll see the proposed 4014. I had forgotten that Broadway offered one - I thought you ment Bachmann, but that was an NP 2-8-8-4, which I quite fancied but have never been convinced with the products I have of theirs. If you not sure about the curves then a S/H example might be better............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric HK Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 @ellocoloco sorry what you mean by S/H example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Second hand, as I suggested, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellocoloco Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 @CedrikHK As Yelrow suggests, second hand - or preloved! So many models out there get little use and remain in great condition so bargins can be had. The Rivarossi model has been around for about 40 years so there are 'varying' standards available. If you can find a Hornby built one you should be fine, or a later Rivarossi example from the late 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric HK Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 I'm tempted to preorder the rivarossi one releasing this year, since I don't have to paid for VAT if I ship to HK, making a brand new BB around £300 without shipping. From eBay there are quite a few BB listing and in very different price range too. How do I know if there are built by hornby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37lover Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 From memory R2 is 438mm which is 17.25”, so marginal in my opinion. Adverts I have seen say this loco is almost a metre long, so a considerable machine to get round corners even with dual articulation.RAF: don't believe eveything you read/see - almost a metre, that would be some monster! I've just measured my HO magnificant beast, just under 500mm long including the tender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellocoloco Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 @CedricHK Rivarossi was acquired by Lima at some point and the whole operation folded in 2003. Hornby bought their assets in 2004 and moved production from Italy to China. Along with the separate acquisition of Electrotren, these brands form the basis of Hornby International. Hornby issued models would have HR in front of the product number and would have been China manufactured form 2006 (It took them a few years to get their act together) If viewing on ebay, the box should have the Hornby 'H' logo somewhere.................... Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman_Ian Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 A beautiful monster indeed, I have run mine on Hornby second radius curves without problem and will navigate points very slowly./media/tinymce_upload/02c34f1ee567399c5599e536e6d3a21b.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric HK Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 @Fireman_IanVery helpful response here! I have only a small portion in R2 so my layout could be fine. I've preordered the 2019 Rivarossi release. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Adverts I have seen say this loco is almost a metre long, so a considerable machine to get round corners even with dual articulation.RAF: don't believe eveything you read/see - almost a metre, that would be some monster! I've just measured my HO magnificant beast, just under 500mm long including the tender.Gaugemaster advert in a newsletter...The link takes you here 1071mm long in Ho http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=HR2753/media/tinymce_upload/915e73ff9163c42b3161e094d1d78260.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Well it isn’t, I borrowed one years ago and a metre long would have been ridiculous. 😆 Was big but managed my loft layout with its second rad curves. I've seen other adverts where it says over 1000mm but that must be the box. On the plastic kit box it says 46.4cm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37lover Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Is "immence" American spelling? My box is 510mm long. The advert would appear to display incorrect data. My loco is about 300mm long and the tender 160mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Which is almost identical to the length stated for the HO plastic kit 37. I was amazed how it managed tight curves where small, in comparison, modern locos struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37lover Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Yes, indeed. It is articulated but each set of four flanged wheels are about 2.5" or 65mm so it does perform very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivarossi down under Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I recently purchased a bigboy new old stock model number HR2005I received the bigboy yesterday in the post from the seller, brand new old of the box ,took the loco out of its box, notice the front driving wheels were handing down and not clip into the frame of the locoput the bigboy on the track to run it and only the back Drivers would rotate, after more closer inspection , it was reveled the from drivers where locked solid, then I noticed the cover to the gear box of the front gearbox had come off , revelling all the gears in the front gears box had broken off the spools they sit on I sent an email Hornby in the uk, the respond I go was that everything over there is sill closed down including hornbys spare parts warehouse so I'm looking replacement front bigboy truck 2005/3 or Trasmissione Hr2031 (HR2099/3) if it fits a hr 2005Also Hr2005/19 part number HS1411 trailing truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill7437 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Hornby International parts for older models are pretty difficult- in view of what you have said the item could not have been packed in a satisfactory condition by the seller that is unless the loco was damaged before being sent !!!!!. Personally I would send the thing back for a full refund including carriage. There is always another day !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivarossi down under Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Hi bill year I agree , should of sent it back, but I know the seller would just put in the bin, so if want sell it for parts it maybe the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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