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M. Matthews

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eLink hardware upgrade?
To achieve what exactly?

 

 

To provision an Xpressnet port and enable comms by firmware update. This would allow use of the 7040 dongle. It would require a return to works or a new Bluetooth module (under consideration). This is my DIY module trial fit stymied by lack of firmware release.

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Thank you RogerB, you beat me to it, and no I am not reassured at all, which was my whole point.

Hornby have done the right thing by making the new decoders compatible via C12 but need to come clean about the future of RM instead of leaving us in limbo. From my perspective fitting a dongle to e-link is unnecessary when RM could easily be modified to access the wifi that is already in most computers. If not it can easily be installed.

A wifi macro/routine must be almost standard and should require very little effort/cost to update. Would that not be the perfect solution where the new replaces the "legacy" painlessly over time.

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Correct me if I am wrong but WiFi and Bluetooth Low Energy Mesh are totally different comms protocols so the existing RM hand-held cannot talk to an HM7000 BLE device. There would have to be new code written into RM to do that. Not every PC has BT capability, and to fit such a card to my train-PC would be just as costly as buying the 7040 dongle.

With HRMS being a sub-contractor of Hornby it would make more sense to pose the question to them about if they intend to support HM7K or not. If not then they write themselves into the history books.

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@96RAF - perfectly correct regarding WiFi & Bluetooth being completely different comms technologies.

It would make a lot of sense for HRMS to add Bluetooth compatibility into Railmaster & even more sense if it utilised native PC Bluetooth drivers. Although this would require the user to have a Bluetooth card/usb dongle in their PC (wireless keyboards & mice already use this) the advantage is there would be no need to modify/update the eLink.

With Bluetooth compatibility added, Railmaster could communicate with HM7k chips wirelessly. Hornby & HRMS could also enable compatibility/communication between Railmaster & HM7k app.

The expressnet dongle (that Hornby are already producing for select/elite) could then simply be used by those who wish to use the HM7k app (to control non-wireless decoders) without a PC.

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So far the HM7K app only works on Apple and Android devices, not Windows or Linux.

 

 

Keep in mind that most iOS apps can run on the new Apple silicon based computers as they use the same architecture. I have about 6 apps installed on my Mac mini.

Also, in the coming weeks I intend to install the ARM version of Windows 11 on my Mac mini to see if it will run Railmaster.

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Providing the BT protocol in the PC supports Mesh connectivity.

 

 

In that case presumably your android (or Apple) phone/tablet would also need to support Mesh Connectivity? How do you check this? If you are buying a cheap tablet to control your locos under HM7000 how do you know if it will work before completing the purchase?

 

 

Fo PCs/Laptops I would assume that one could buy a Mesh compatible Bluetooth dongle complete with protocol drivers if your machine does not already have this capability.

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Looking at Apple specs on their own website - the first iPhone to support Bluetooth v4 was the iPhone 5 (apparently released in 2012).

Whilst making generalisations/assumptions is usually inadvisable…

Since Hornby have already recommended devices that are 5yrs old or newer (providing that Bluetooth v4 or newer is the only requirement for Mesh compatibility) there shouldn’t be too much of an issue!

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In that case there is more to it as although the app installs on my older iPad Air it will not load and run correctly yet. It is however one of the devices listed by Hornby as not yet sorted. There is a link to the full list from one of the videos about HM7K.

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It appears that since 2010 most/all devices seem to have BT V4 and able to operate the "mesh". This means we need a mesh device/dongle to create a comm network or is the normal BT transmitter in all bluetooth devices sufficient? This sort of implies that the Hornby app incorporates a mesh interface - is that right?

If yes, then any BT V4 device can potentially be updated and used.

There are wifi light bulbs available, followed no doubt by BT - technology is taking over!

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Don’t forget Zigbee - I think our Hue smart lights use that. The Internet of Things, or Home Automation is a bit of a minefield. When Hornby gets their app working it looks as if it will be independent of all the other systems out there and a jolly good thing too.

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The DCC app scans for all BT devices and currently provides a developers tool to see them all or filter out those not applicable to the app, thus it may be possible to find and link to alien devices, but likely if that were to be taken up it would be at a later date. Getting a working version of the app on the streets is the target for now.

The DC app has the filter on as default so these other devices are not in view.

You would be amazed at the number of BT devices that are picked up - I have had up to 50+ devices detected in my immediate area, from TVs, sound bars, fitness devices, speakers and other hive/echo type assistants.


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