SeanTT Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 any firm eta? i know SK said end of the month/mid of feb is that still realistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew Man Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Beyond having a play you still won't be able to use it until the decoders become available, and that I believe is around May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 The app still has to go out for UAT as previously advised. I am sure if any of that select group are on here they will chirp up when they get hold of the kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnP1707822380 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I have had a response from Hornby Technical Services regarding short circuit protection when a P9100 PSU is wired directly to the track to power a HM7000 system (raised earlier in this thread)."The P9100 power supply is specifically designed to deal with any short-circuits to ensure that your decoders are not damaged. If a short occurs, a simple reset of the mains power will have the Bluetooth system come back online within 10 seconds." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechImp Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 P-Henney gave a good description of the hazards of paralleling power supplies - not a good idea and I personally would not do it. Any power supply of the correct voltage with short circuit protection would be ok in my humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM6 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 The app still has to go out for UAT as previously advised. I am sure if any of that select group are on here they will chirp up when they get hold of the kit. Will do, although we may need some guidelines on what we may or may not comment on prior to the official launch Rob. Mod note - that will be has been so advised Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 In case anyone was wondering which devices work with HM7K app at present, here is a list of those known not to at present but which are being worked.HM.DCC_-_HM7000_Incompatible_Device_List_9-1-2023.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 That’s a relief. I am running an original iPad Pro, certainly more than 5 years old but running latest iOS. It’s not on the list so I’m assuming it will work. Only iPad Air is on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM6 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 That is a fairly comprehensive list of the most recent Samsung models - hoping that will change. That cause some issues with the takeup of the system if they remain out of scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 My iPad Air is at v12.5.7 so well within the lower cut off limit for the device of >v11.0, but although the app installs, it crashes on load and that is what they are sorting.The app works fine on my later iPad Pro at v16.3.It could be as simple as the Apple compiler as I have had similar iPad Air crashes on a few apps and the feedback I got from What3Words developers was that they reverted to the old compiler pending Apple sorting out a well known problem. I fed this info back to Hik-Vision and they sorted their cctv app out as well. Apparently Apple will say they are fixing something but never give a date - sounds familiar.Both the phones in our house are Samsung, but I have other makes in a drawer somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Henny Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I have a Samsung S2 which is also on the list (circa 2019 Andriod 7.0). Given the sheer number of Samsung devices listed, it appears that there is something fundamental in Samsungs hardware and/or BT implementations that causes an issue compared to other brands. I'm not too concerned about this, as I currently have no inclination to convert/replace my Railmaster & Elite to/with BT & APP control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechImp Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Blue tooth aside, the interesting part of this is that the new decoders can be downloaded with a choice of sound files. Although I have found Hornby sound decoders to be very good sound wise, they can't be reused or changed. Despite their greater cost I use ESU sound decoders because you can create your own sound files - they are much more versatile.I wonder if that is possible with the new decoders? If not then I am sure Hornby have a library of realistic original sounds.A smart move by Hornby, the app is free, but their decoders are much more attractive regardless of your method of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Although you can wipe and reload the 7000 series decoders you cannot amend the actual sound files for content, however the selection of sounds is realistic and where an example exists they have been recorded, else library files have been used, so I am not sure what additional sounds you might need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechImp Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 There are always other options, but as stated already I have found Hornby sounds quite adequate and the ability of the 7000 series to change sound files makes them a lot more attractive.Experimenting with and creating your own sound files adds another dimension to the hobby to those so inclined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wap Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Re the HM7040 Bluetooth legacy DongleI have spent a lot of money on Digitrax and don't wish to just throw this needlessly awayYet I love the concept of Hornby HM7000It is very disappointing it seems this Dongle is not going to support the Digitrax LocoNet communication protocol ?1/ Is this correct?2/ Is there any Xpressnet > Loconet convertor that will allow the dongle to control my Digitrax controller?3/ What about other Bluetooth>Loconet control devices?Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSR_NSE Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Nobody is suggesting that existing DCC users should throw away their controllers. There is nothing preventing you from either:• using your existing controller with existing decoders & the new HM7000 ones as well.• using your existing controller with existing decoders & the app with the new HM7000 decoders.The dongle is simply to enable the app to control non-Bluetooth decoders, it is natural that Hornby is making it compatible with their own controllers initially. Whether they subsequently make it compatible with other manufacturers’ equipment will depend entirely on technology/financial decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wap Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Sure I know that, but this misses the point of the entire reason you would have a dongle in the first place.We well know two different DCC controllers can not be run on the same layout, so that negates a simple solution - like a simple DCC Xpressnet interface piggybacking onto the layout.By allowing the new app to effectively take control of an existing DCC controller, you basically have all chips/locomotives (HM7000 and non HM7000) listed and controllable (to some extent) within the appWithout this, the setup is less than adequate. The end user is left flip flopping between app and physical hardware, for control of locomotives, and other functions, lighting etc.Then there is the issue of future add on features, like Bluetooth enabled point control etc...That dongle is the key to giving Hornby full integration of the layout and control of it in it's entirety, and must support all legacy NMRA DCC communication protocols - otherwise full uptake of bluetooth and the app will not occur and Hornby will (yet again) not "own" control of the layout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wap Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Would one of these work to get an HM7040 controlling a Digitrax controller? https://www.ironplanethobbies.com/product/digikeijs-dr5000-dcc-command-station-loconet-xpressnet-railcom-wifi-usb-no-power-supply/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Henny Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Would one of these work to get an HM7040 controlling a Digitrax controller? Have a read of this previous thread:HM7000 and Digikeijs DR5000 :: Hornby Hobbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I suppose the dongle could be made to support all the stuff the linked device supports but then the price would likely be the same if not more than that device.Given the device has a PC interface does that not negate your flip-flop protest as this is another screen to look at.I would view the app as a walkabout controller adding value to your existing DCC setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wap Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Thanks for all the help and the link..You guys just don't "get it" do you?I guess that means I don't switch to HM7000!Hornby fails to "take control" again!!!!Just MO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Hang on before you go, I will just ask Hornby to support a bunch of alien kit to satisfy your need . . . . They said that’s unlikely. I suggest you buy the much more expensive Digital-box instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuLuJo Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 96RAF Could I just say thank you for you patience answering the endless repetitive questions, hissy fits because the answer you give does not meet individual needs and misunderstandings from everyone myself included. It has helped me understand what is going on and the possibilities and I am sure many others. I would have lost my cool many weeks ago. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew Man Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Big of you to say, Mike, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-350398 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 i have a digitax system and dont need anything extra to make these blutooth chips work just the sound decpder and hm7000 app your track is powered by your digitrak system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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