Fishplates to join Hornby track to Peco track.

[RB51]

Based on the fact that Peco and Hornby track are compatible and bearing in mind that the Hornby version TT8036 is currently out of stock and disappears at a rapid rate when it comes back, I wondered how folk were getting on joining them together? The fishplates I got from Hattons, which are allegedly for TT, N and 009 are a nightmare to put on. They must be for TT100 stock. R-

[Skelton Junction]

I found hornby fishplates worked well. The underside has a bobble at one end which suited the peco track side of the join. In their absence from the hornby store I also found tillig joiners to do the job but peco ones were hopeless.

[RB51]

Yes, they seem to be a popular work round but they too are like hens teeth at present. R-

[Brew Man]

I'm not a TT modeller but I've never had a problem with OO gauge Peco fishplates I use them on Hornby and Peco track alike.

[ntpntpntp]

The Hornby TT rail has a wider foot than the Peco code 55 rail so the Peco joiners won't work.

Peco rail's foot is thicker so it needs a bit of force to open out a Hornby joiner so that it fits. I'm not totally convinced this is the best option.

Going through my stores:

Other brands of N gauge track joiners (eg. Fleischmann, Minitrix) are mostly too tall and clash with the "middle T" of the Peco code 55 rail. I had this problem when integrating a Fleischmann N turntable with Peco N code 55 track. I had to grind away some of the middle T section to allow Fleischmann joiners to fit.

Peco OO joiners would fit both rail types but are just too big and bulky.

The best fit I have at present are old Wrenn OO joiners which slide nicely onto the Hornby rail and also the Peco rail - though they're a little loose and would need a squeeze with pliers.

[RB51]

Thanks Brew Man, I think this is more of an issue with the smaller scales. R-

[Renoir]

Possibly not entirely relevant but I have used PECO Code 75 insulated joiners on some of my Hornby points, and for isolation tracks. They need trimming down to fit but do the job nicely.

[Dodge1965]

Roger B.. How many do u need?

[RB51]

Around 40. Do you know where I can get any though? R-

[Dodge1965]

Around 40. Do you know where I can get any though? R-

 

 

Yes, I have probably 40 if not more, happy to lend you some, till they come back in stock and u replace them? Can you see my email address?

[RB51]

I'll have a go. Thank you. R-

[Dodge1965]

I'll have a go. Thank you. R-

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[Fishmanoz]

Or you can use Tillig.

[RB51]

They are like hens teeth from what I can see, R-

[Rallymatt]

Fishy, I think the Tillig ones are getting short. Another option may be Roco, I think their track also matches the Tillig/Hornby profile

[Fishmanoz]

I didn’t do an extensive search but, yes, a couple of places out of Tillig.

I bought lots a while ago.

[Peachy]

Regarding Roco fishplates, I found them easy to match Roco/Fleischmann to Hornby but I couldn’t get them to fit Peco

[Herbie]

I have Tillig 85501 which are code 83 and darkened to match rails rather than silver.

Got them from DCCconcepts, still in stock but cost a bit more than the shiny ones.

They aren't listed as TT on their site, but they are on the Tilig site.

Fit perfectly on Hornby track, not tried Peco.

Tillig 85501 Rail Joiners (Blackened Metal) HO/HOe/HOm (dccconcepts.com)

85501 - Tillig Modellbahnen

(Don't mind sharing, got all I need)

[RB51]

Although only a slight difference between them the Hornby version is easier to fit to Peco track, You might have to employ a blunt instrument 🤫 but the failure rate is negligible. R-

[Steve-353799]

I'm just about to order a load of Peco flexitrack. The Peco rail joiners obviously fit but would it be easier to fit the Hornby ones Peco track to Peco track.

I take it there's no detriment to use Hornby for just Peco track?

Ta,

Steve

[RB51]

To be honest neither brand is an easy fit. The Hornby ones are easier in that they definitely suit the slightly wider Peco rail profile…… a little better ……… but still require a good push. Be careful if joining up points. I was holding one so firmly I managed to dislodge one of the blades. Managed to fit it back though. If Hornby made unifrog points I’d have stayed with those. Much easier. R-

[Steve-353799]

Do Tillig do streamlined points and are they ready assembled?

Ta

[Fishmanoz]

Check out their full range on the Tillig site.

[ntpntpntp]

RogerB wrote:

The Hornby ones are easier in that they definitely suit the slightly wider Peco rail profile…… a little better ……… but still require a good push.

 

 

Actually it's the Hornby rail which has the wider foot which is why Peco joiners definitely won't fit. The problem with the Hornby TT fishplates on Peco code 55 is the special "middle T" section of the profile which gets in the way of some other brands of fishplate (eg. HornbyTT, Fleischmann N, Minitrix N etc.)

 

 

[RB51]

Yes, that’s what I’m trying to say. The wider Hornby fishplates will fit the Peco track at a push, but the Peco ones are almost impossible to get onto Hornby track, and not that easy to get onto Peco either.

My earlier post now edited.

R-