Jinty 0-6-0 motor for DCC operation

[DJN]

I am looking for an 0-6-0 "Jinty" tank engine with a view to DCC conversion.

I note there are several variants in LMS maroon livery that are DCC compatible.

The older one has a Ringfield motor and the 2009 version is, I presume, made in

China with a sealed motor.

Would there be any difference from the point of view of the ease of conversion? Also which motor would be best, in DCC form ,for shunting?

[96RAF]

New modellers shop have the 0-6-0 motor as a spare both as DC and DCC ready which would likely drop into a Jinty.

[Going Spare]

Are you referring to Hornby Jinty models? None have been fitted with either a Ringfield or a sealed motor. The earliest used a X04/X03 long open-frame motor before adopting the still current square open-frame motor as suggested by 96RAF. Bachmann have also made the Jinty and this uses a can (sealed) motor.

[DJN]

I read about a Hornby version (no. 16440) on the Hattons web-site,

that was described as having a Ringfield motor. - they have sold out.

I also came across the term "slot-car" motor which I guess means open-frame.

The reference from 96RAF looks like what I need to emulate for DCC wiring .

Thx

[Brew Man]

Hatton's describe a lot of locos as having Ringfield motors that almost certainly do not. Slot Car motors are CAN types, the ones that are used in Scalextric cars.

[ntpntpntp]

The only steam tank locos I've encountered with a ringfield type motor (vertically mounted large flat armature surrounded by a circular magnet) are some very cheap old Lima models and the early Mainline / Bachmann J72. There may be some others with ringfields but they are far more common in tender drive locos and bogie diesels/electrics.

[LTSR_NSE]

Not relevant to the original question, but in addition to ntp’s recollections:

The Castle tooling that Hornby bought from Dapol (in late 90s/early 00s) had a ringfield motor. Unusually despite being a tender loco - it was loco drive, the ringfield motor was within the firebox/boiler.

[Brew Man]

The earliest ringfield motor I can recall was in a Hornby Dublo 8F I had as a child. It looked much like a conventional long open frame motor except the the magnet was hollow and encased the armature.

[DJN]

Well I've ordered a second hand LMS maroon Jinty from Hattons .

It looks identical to a more expensive "mint" offering on eBay (without a box).

If so it will have a type 'M' motor. Perhaps even a DCC socket, but I ain't

counting on that.

The slot car fraternity use the term "strap motor" for the motors in some vintage

F1 slots.

[The son of Triangman]

Hornby jinties don't have ringfield motors. The former Tri-ang model had the X.04 motor in. In 1978 a new mould was made which is still in use today. Early 1978 first issue ones had the famous X.03 motor, later ones the type 7 M series motor.

[The son of Triangman]

Here are the motors fitted to Hornby Jinties.

[Brew Man]

How many would you like? joy

[DJN]

Think I might need a spare motor of the type as I now have three 0-6-0s .

Will follow Hornby guidance for Thomas doing the conversion.

Though I seem to have a surfeit of capacitors.

[96RAF]

If you look on the New Modellers Shop product page there is a link to the chassis mods necessary when installing the DCC ready motor to an earlier chassis.

BTW you can bin the capacitor and ferrite man if going DCC as the decoder sorts out RF interefence .

[DJN]

Thanks for those tips and the info re motors. The most difficult part of this exercise was re-fitting the body shell _ I made a loose sleeve from insulation tape to hold the decoder in the smoke box with the plug alongside.

[ColinB]

I did the conversion using the PCB from a 0-6-0 Peckett loco, using a 6 pin Train O Matic decoder. It also gives room underneath the decoder for the LaisDCC Stay Alive (not fitted yet). I removed the two dropper resistors.