Kenneth-365689 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Maybe it is a collaborative effort from HAL and Holly... HAL is Having A Laugh and Holly just hopes it will all be here by Christmas 🤖🤖🌲 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelton Junction Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 I still like the urban myth/conspiracy theory that HAL was so named in the 1960s because of the threat of the super computer and by moving forward in the alphabet by 1 letter you get IBM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 18 minutes ago, Tim Allen said: probably someone altering the delivery date of the purchase order from China. It wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't more of a Holly than a HAL for the AI. Holly is in PR 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth-365689 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 12 minutes ago, Rallymatt said: Holly is in PR 😁 Probably Responsible? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSR_NSE Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 4 hours ago, Tim Allen said: Mid is not the start of the month or the end of the month but the bit in between. So basically 2nd to 29th Sept! 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen-1260829 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 3 hours ago, Skelton Junction said: I still like the urban myth/conspiracy theory that HAL was so named in the 1960s because of the threat of the super computer and by moving forward in the alphabet by 1 letter you get IBM. I'd like to believe that myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Allen Posted Sunday at 21:56 Author Share Posted Sunday at 21:56 Updated 15/9/24 - Class 66 is now back to showing as November and the Class J50 is January 2025 😞. Subject to change and normally will. Slowly but surely the list is getting smaller 🙂 Green is On Time & Red is Delayed. Due This Month 12T Tank Wagons (BP & Benzol) – Late September 2024 (DELAYED) HM7000-N18 18 Pin BT & DCC No Sound (R7401) Late September 2024 (ON TIME) Train Sets Intercity 125 DC & DCC – Mid November 2024 (ON TIME) Locomotives Class 66 All Liveries DC Era11 – Mid November 2024 (DELAYED) Class 66 All Liveries DCC Era11 – Mid November 2024 (DELAYED) J50 Class 0-6-0T Era 3, 4 & 5 – Mid January 2025 (DELAYED) BR Class 08 0-6-0 Era 5 – Late November 2024 (ON TIME) Class 50 GBRf DC & DCC Era 11 – Late May 2025 (DELAYED) Wagons & Coaches 12T Tank Wagons (BP & Benzol) – Late September 2024 (DELAYED) Pullman 1st Class – Late December 2024 (DELAYED) BR Mk2E Coaches era 7&8 – Late May 2025 (DELAYED) 21T Mineral Wagons – Late May 2025 (DELAYED) Track Side Level Crossing – Early January 2025 (DELAYED) Signals – Early April 2025 (DELAYED) HM7000 Decoders HM7000-6 6 Pin BT & DCC No Sound (R7321) Late September 2025 (DELAYED) HM7000-N18 18 Pin BT & DCC No Sound (R7401) Late September 2024 (ON TIME) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox 17 Posted Sunday at 22:17 Share Posted Sunday at 22:17 I would like to think that the J50 delay was due to trying to source a decent motor, coreless or with brushes. Possibly the same for the diesels? I know Hornby once said coreless are no good with their cheap controller but they can change their ideas any time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted Sunday at 22:24 Share Posted Sunday at 22:24 Questions have been asked about carbon brush versions of motors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_watts1 Posted Monday at 00:24 Share Posted Monday at 00:24 I really do hope they sort the motor issue because as shunting engines the J50's won't last two minutes with them silly wipers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moawkwrd Posted Monday at 06:25 Share Posted Monday at 06:25 (edited) Martin did mention the J50 delay a couple of issues back in the Hornby Magazine so unsurprising to see the dates change Edited Monday at 06:25 by moawkwrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMD Posted Monday at 07:06 Share Posted Monday at 07:06 8 hours ago, Silver Fox 17 said: I know Hornby once said coreless are no good with their cheap controller but they can change their ideas any time. You are right Garry, which I always felt was far more of an indictment of their cheap controller than of cordless motors!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dBerriff Posted Monday at 07:19 Share Posted Monday at 07:19 (edited) It is. Coreless motors are subject to overheating and armature burn-out with low frequency pulsed controllers. P.S. cordless motors are an interesting concept - this would simplify installation and save some soldering. 😀 Edited Monday at 07:19 by dBerriff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Allen Posted Monday at 07:47 Author Share Posted Monday at 07:47 I think the delays are more down to shipping issues and part availability. Did they not say once in an interview that the J50 was using a different motor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted Monday at 07:48 Share Posted Monday at 07:48 (edited) Coreless motors are significantly more expensive and they can struggle in small sizes to provide the torque people may expect. When they are being overworked that too can lead to overheating and the windings collapse. Edited Monday at 07:50 by Rallymatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606 Odin Posted Monday at 09:39 Share Posted Monday at 09:39 What I find disheartening is the lack of wagons coming through. There needs to be more choice and should be a continuous stream coming through, at least until there’s 6-10 different for each main eras (big 4, BR steam and diesel, and privatised eras) coaching stock is reasonably well covered for the available locos so far, although the lack of blue grey mk1’s is still perplexing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox 17 Posted Monday at 10:09 Share Posted Monday at 10:09 27 minutes ago, 47606 Odin said: What I find disheartening is the lack of wagons coming through Unfortunately they only have a limited amount of money available and in reality we have been very, very lucky with the amount of locos, wagons, coaches produced in such a short time, especially for a new scale. There will be more but we cannot have everything all at once. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606 Odin Posted Monday at 11:52 Share Posted Monday at 11:52 1 hour ago, Silver Fox 17 said: Unfortunately they only have a limited amount of money available and in reality we have been very, very lucky with the amount of locos, wagons, coaches produced in such a short time, especially for a new scale. There will be more but we cannot have everything all at once. Not expecting everything all at once, however, there doesn’t appear to be much in the pipeline drawn up, or to EP levels being shown in progression given how long things take to get to production. I’d be hoping to see by now more reruns announced of renumbered existing releases especially the TTA’s by now, but not even a whisper. I know there is the rumoured VGA’s but other than a statement about them being in the future in the catalogue I can’t find any info on when anything will be forthcoming. Looking at the dates on the few models (not counting locos here) there’s very little coming in the near future, When they are already quoting dates of May next year like I say I’m not expecting the world, but I would of thought there’d be more news by now about things in the pipeline almost ready to go into production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSR_NSE Posted Monday at 15:39 Share Posted Monday at 15:39 Hornby started off TT:120 by announcing things that were years ahead. They have now transitioned to only announcing things that they intend to be available within 6 months. Even this isn’t proving entirely manageable (e.g. J50) - therefore expecting further into future announcements isn’t going to happen. With regards reusing existing tooling for relivery/renumbering - whilst it wouldn’t involve additional tooling cost, it still requires production slots & if these are currently maxed out using the new toolings - then extra production slots would still require extra investment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc4946 Posted yesterday at 16:59 Share Posted yesterday at 16:59 My only TT preorder is a BR late crest J50. Securing production slots, bearing in mind competing demand for production slots for items intended for pre-Xmas delivery, and transport from China are what I think are the main reasons for delay into January next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dBerriff Posted yesterday at 17:09 Share Posted yesterday at 17:09 My only remaining pre-order is a Class 66, ordered before the price rise. As long as it arrives in time for Christmas I will be happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSR_NSE Posted yesterday at 17:18 Share Posted yesterday at 17:18 My only TT preorder is the BP/Shell 12T Tanker - whenever it arrives I’ll be happy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelton Junction Posted yesterday at 18:35 Share Posted yesterday at 18:35 I’ve two 66s on pre order. One early doors at £87 and one with sound at the current going rate. The green 08 and J50 preorders have been cancelled due to lack of a decoder appearing anytime soon and the price (when available) will still be less than buying an 8 pin and asking someone ((TWW) to fit it. My hobby points and notional budget will go on the 37s as soon as they become a thing. I’ve also five of the Glenhafod mineral wagons on pre order at the bargain price of £58. Whenever they pitch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-L Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago On 16/09/2024 at 10:39, 47606 Odin said: the lack of blue grey mk1’s is still perplexing Fingers crossed for some headcode blue diesels plus blue grey and some network southeast in the coming year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago The blue grey MK1s are easy to do. Railmatch for the paint and RailTec for the decals. There is even a video on how to do it 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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