New 2017 items

[Howbi]

Same here, LC, Kodak 127, Hornby Dublo goods set, Meccano......regularly took tube from Finchley Central to visit Gamages to view superb layouts and purchase Meccano bits, gears, wheels etc as they stocked every part..........must have been early 50's...... 😀

[VESPA]

Many of my photos on David Heys website were on a Brownie 127. Now I have Nikon F90's and a Mamiya RB67.

[trainlover23]

£375 for the new Hitachi, WITH NO SOUND? What? How?? Why???

https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2017/hitachi-iep-bi-mode-class-800-0-gwr-train-pack.html

Not everybody wants sound some modellers like peace and quiet as do exhibition goers

[walkingthedog]

Quite right trainlover. 

 

The price is not excessive by modern standards for highly detailed products. Compare it wth the Blue Pullman for instance. 

[Cronan]

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I've pre ordered the class 800 (I really like the livery) so let the saving commence! Oops Christmas first then let the saving commence! 

[Postman Prat]

 That was taken on one of those plastic Kodak 127 cameras that took 8 shots. The oval shaped ones, cheap and cheerful.  Shame my pocket money didn't run to anything better, that and a model railway and a Meccano set to support! My other major item of weekly expenditure was a red bus rover 1/3d in Saturdays, to go round London spotting locos and buses. A Jubbly and an individual fruit pie, and some cheese & pickle sandwiches in a brown paper bag, all packed into a Army Surplus shoulder bag.  Dress code, short grey trousers (knee length) , grey school jumper, long socks (knee length) ,  school cap, and on wet days a navy blue raincoat.

Only the bus ticket and Meccano is unfamiar. I had the Blenhiem St Model Shop in Newcastle to support. Everything else is as it was, down to the spotters uniform!!

[walkingthedog]

Hey LC your dress code is exactly what PP wears on our days out, me as well, we look very smart.

[Fozzy Bear]

So I had a look at the £375 Hitachi and all I see is a body shell that looks like it was painted with a 2 inch brush. The other photo is the real train.

Is the plan to just make a new shell and plonk in on the old chassis? Are there lights fitted? 

I can't see any difference in detailing from the 3579 except the paint job.

What makes it worth so much money?

[Fazy]

No the coaches are different lengths so their not going to get away with that.

 

Don't know what photos you've seen but on reweb they have some. and even for a confirmed LMR modeler I have to say it's the dogs doo dars. and very tempting. 

[Sultan]

Railway Modelling is again a hobby for the rich  ☹️

[Cronan]

Railway Modelling is again a hobby for the rich  ☹️

Nope houses and cars are for the rich modeling is for us who don't have cars. Anyway you should read the story on page one about that homeless woman who just had tarpaulin for shelter.

[Cronan]

So I had a look at the £375 Hitachi and all I see is a body shell that looks like it was painted with a 2 inch brush. The other photo is the real train.

Is the plan to just make a new shell and plonk in on the old chassis? Are there lights fitted? 

I can't see any difference in detailing from the 3579 except the paint job.

What makes it worth so much money?

It's a 5 car set and it has only been announced, those 2 shells are just examples as it won't be out till q4 2017 I know £375 is a lot of money for a lot of people (including myself) but if you live in the top ten countries in the world and are working its not that expensive also you can't expect  that level of detailing and have railroad prices. Also the Chinese wages are going up as they should in my opinion it seems a bit unfair them earning a pathectic £3 a hour just to make it cheaper for us westerners. But I do have symphony if you are on a pension or at school maybe they might do a railroad version.

[walkingthedog]

I don't think it's overly expensive, take a look at the Blue Pullman. 

 

I think you'll find if you're  a pensioner you can afford it  😆 😆

[Fazy]

Most if not all modelers are modeling on a budget over a year. £375 is a lot but you have minimum of 12 months to save up for. £31.25 a  mouth.  not unachievable for most. you may not be able buy anything else. But you will end up with a five car top notch model.  and may even be worth more to you for saving for it.

 

As for me I'm afraid I can't afford it due to saving for sir Stanier. and others. 

 

[AndyMac1707817969]

Would much rather see a model made properly and to a high spec than to have corners cut just to save a few pounds and try to be a compromise between both ends of the market. I would rather have one good model than several poor ones.

 

Having recently completed Hornby's survey and am now hoping for a new Class 91 / 92 sometime in the not so distant future, I will only buy them (I don't really care what the price is) if it is made to an exacting standard and of course they produce some MK4 coaches to a similar standard and not do what they did with the Class 43. I will not buy part of what needs to be a set if the whole lot is not available or at least in the pipeline. Learnt my lesson there with the Measurement Train.

 

For years we had train packs with highly detailed locos and poor MK1 coaches, I am sure I am not the only person who stopped buying train packs with railroad range coaches, Hornby finally addressed this, the real reason I am sure why we seen new MK1 coaches was to save the train packs. Hopefully they have learnt something, I will be happy to buy many class 91s but only if there are new Mk4 coaches and not something as produced 30 years ago tarted up a bit.

[Yelrow]

It becomes the old chestnut of who are they producing for. Young aspiring collectors who simply cannot afford the price of detailed coaches, or the discerning modeller. For the latter, the likes of Trix,  fleischmann, and Marrklin produce these high detail, highly expensive items.  For the volume/ high turnover, and intent to reduce range, new tooling for expensive coaches, for a limited market, would appear to be a path only the brave would tread. john

[Fazy]

It's a tough tip rope hornby are trying to walk. not only do they have to try and bring the right model.  in the right livery.   with the right detail. Hornby are trying to do this and I believe foing a good job

 

 

 I don't know where I sit anymore. what I like is the correct dimensions with the right detail.  ie bits that aren't there not to be produced.   such as stanier tenders.  though this seems that this will be sorted out with the all new pacific.  hopefully even with the right wheels going by the all new B17. as for other thing like sprung buffers lights etc. o don't care.  I can add if wanted. 

 

And I am sure others may have different wants such as unrealistic low prices,TTS or full blown sound,metal bodies, repairable motors etc.

Unfortunately we are not going to get all are wants. so we have two choices buy or not! what ever you do I do think Hornby deserves acknowledgement for at least listening and trying to give us are wants.

[Yelrow]

I have no problem with Hornby, or the job they are trying to do, which is commendable. My point was, in trying to pacify all, they run the risk of  falling between a rock and a hard place. £300 plus trains, will not be able to be on a lot of family budgets, whilst less than full spec will disappoint the purists. Railroad, appears the compromise solution, up to now. john

[LCDR]

 Lets face it you are not forced to buy the expensive stuff, and can produce a very presentable model railway on a very strict budget. You just have to moderate your requirements.  I want some sets of 'Birdcage' SECR coaches being made by another firm.  These will retail at about £60 each so an authentic three car set will be about £180.

 

However you can buy Hornby maroon Mark 1 carriages from Hattons for £17 each.  So if I just wanted to play trains I get RailRoad locos and coaches, but if I wanted some specialist and detailed rolling stock I have to be prepared to shell out the cash and smile as I do so.

 

You don't have to have sound. You don't have to have the very latest models with digital control.  DC systems are reasonably cheap and plentful and there is a vibrant second hand market. You can easily find a good selection of DC locos for under £25.

 

If you go abroad for you annual holiday, visit the pub at least twice a week, rent DVDs and games, smoke, and go to football regularly, you probably are spending at least as much as I do on your hobbies and pastimes .