LTSR_NSE Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Is there any more detail regarding these somewhere? (or is that MIA like the rules?) The rank levels (which show both awarded & available) appear to have no explanation of what they are awarded for, and the badges (which show what they are awarded for) only show awarded & not available. This seems a little inconsistent. Not a problem if they are fairly meaningless - but not particularly helpful if intended to encourage engagement & participation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Fred Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I am ranked a collaborator - sounds like I am back in that bad German era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What About The Bee Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 LT&SR_NSE They appear to be based on calendar time and/or quantity of posts. That is to say, longevity of participation and /or the prolific nature of the participant. I must say, I don't like the system. I do not deserve the badges they give me, and I have empathy for the new guy who meanders in. Will that person be intimidated by some lofty (and quite meaningless) badge? Especially so if they will have the neophyte level of badge, but really are an expert and just are posting here first time. A badge for moderators is fine. The sheriffs should have badges, to let us know. Other than that? No thanks. I actually looked to see if I could turn mine off. If there was a way to do that, I would do it now. Bee 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) I seem to be a Grand Master with a tri-pointed crown, whatever they mean. Edited February 17 by Fishmanoz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 To my mind its a nonsense thing, but the platform providers and forum owners seem to think it encourages stuff. Go to your profile and click on the row of badges in Achievements and the meanings of them are all explained. Badges for turning up basically. Just wait until folk find the points system and start awarding each other Brownie Points. Deep joy. Not to be confused with Rewards Points which are money to spend. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSR_NSE Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Fair enough so: • Rank = how prolific a poster you are • Badges = turning up & discovering the different ways to interact with forum. • Reputation = how many ‘reactions’ your posts attract. Agree not particularly useful - but nice to at least understand the intended purpose. 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbo2 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 5 hours ago, What About The Bee said: LT&SR_NSE ...... Will that person be intimidated by some lofty (and quite meaningless) badge? Especially so if they will have the neophyte level of badge........ I tend to agree with you, point is well made. We don't want an "us and them" appearance. Edited February 17 by gilbo2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moccasin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, 96RAF said: Just wait until folk find the points system and start awarding each other Brownie Points. Deep joy. Not to be confused with Rewards Points which are money to spend. Challenge accepted, while completely ignoring your ironic use of the word joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, LTSR_NSE said: Fair enough so: • Rank = how prolific a poster you are • Badges = turning up & discovering the different ways to interact with forum. • Reputation = how many ‘reactions’ your posts attract. Agree not particularly useful - but nice to at least understand the intended purpose. 👍 Maybe they should be Rank - you don't have to reply to every post. Badges - join the Brownies or the Scouts or the WI if you want to earn badges. Rep - this should work both ways. Up and down. Can you apply a multiple score to someone to drive their rep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSR_NSE Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Rank/Rep (only one needed) should definitely encourage quality over quantity. However nothing wrong with being helpful/informative & prolific! 👍 Badges could have an advantage to encourage newbies to keep engaging (when starting out) - but perhaps more relevant if they were kept as a private incentive & not publicly visible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew Man Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 4 hours ago, 96RAF said: To my mind its a nonsense thing, but the platform providers and forum owners seem to think it encourages stuff. Maybe not always good stuff though. 🤔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Ranking and badges are just pointless gimmicks - as I said in another thread this isn't Facebook, we don't need to be chasing measures of activity nor "likes". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moccasin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The whole “likes” thing is a bit conflicting. It’s nice to be able to show agreement with or appreciation of a post, but collecting them and wearing them as a badge of honour/superiority is quite another. Removing the whole points, badges and collection of likes etc would be preferable, but I can see why Hornby Towers might want to drive engagement and why they might see such social media things as A Good Thing. Problem is that many using this forum are of … a certain age… we find such things frivolous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The reaction is an easy way to respond without the need of a full post - useful. The rest means nothing, scrap the rank, badges (seriously who thought that up?) and Rep. Reaction should be enough to indicate the Reputation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB51 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Believe me when I say we are feeding all comments back to Hornby. What stays, changes shape or goes is their business decision. R- 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I just hit the "Reactions Limit" 😞 Get rid of that ridiculous limit for a start, I agree that the ability to "like" a post to show agreement or appreciation is good and something I missed on the old version of the forum. Mod Edit: Your post was held for moderation due to the word you used at the beginning of your post. I have removed it and all is well. R- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbo2 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 That's interesting, for the second time today its re-allowed me to like a post <confused> 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB51 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Does seem odd. It's on the list - in bold. R- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I think with fiddly bits, Hornby has 2 things wrong: - they are misreading the current forum market, and - if they think they can create a new market by including such features, they may well find no such market exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What About The Bee Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) If you examine the principles of Social Credit in certain societies, you will discover the same principles at work here in the Hornby Forum. The system in place here is to encourage some behaviors and discourage others. In general, all societies have such a system, but usually not presented so overtly. When walking around in public, do you carry a placard indicating your credit rating? Does the placard include your educational level? Perhaps how many locomotives you own? If you do not carry that placard around in public, then why would you want a placard here? Bee Edited February 17 by What About The Bee Clarity 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbo2 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Will all this like/badges stuff lead to more business and interest for Hornby? They are obviously hoping so, time will tell I guess. Not sure if all todays posts have done that, but things with settle back down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I think we are stuck with it as Hornby seems to think it provides them with useful metrics about forum activity. How that works I have no idea - time based promotion tells you nothing except you have a load of folk who either pre-qualified or have popped in now and then. They should be counting visits, posts, purchases, etc. Badges are pointless under the same argument. Reputation is one way and depends upon folk ticking your box. All BS in my personal opinion but unlikely to be dumped. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 @96RAF consider your above post "liked" - I'm not allowed to react to it right now 🙂 The sooner that limit is dropped, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Do I get a "point" for saying 'Hello'? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moccasin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 As a marker in the sand, the site itself suggests that so far the maximum number of users online at once has been 108 - presumably across all three brands, although the Hornby forum seems busiest. Will be interesting to see if that increases. There also seem to be a lot of users who don’t post based on the other metrics. Are users just those who've registered an account on their brand websites? Nearly 1m doesn’t seem so bad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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